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11-08-2012, 07:04 PM
| | | | So Disapointed - Ampeg PN Series Cabs
I am SO disapointed ... Just did a sound check with my Ampeg 3 Pro & Ampeg PN 210 HLF & PN 115 HLF cabs and I am not impressed. I usually use an Eden 410 XLT, but am kinda sick lugging it around. I thought the lighter PN series would hit the spot. Not so! This is the first time that I have used them ... These cabs have GOT TO GO!
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11-08-2012, 07:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Winnipeg Manitoba, Canada | | | Why did you buy them without trying them? And what made you get those sight unseen over another brands cabs that have lots of reviews? |
11-08-2012, 07:12 PM
| | | | I had a friend in California and I was able to get the cabs through him at a bit of discount and jumped at the chance ... and here I am.
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11-08-2012, 07:17 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Worcester, MA | | | The Ampeg 3 Pro may not have enough power to really push both those cabs at the same time.
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11-08-2012, 07:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Winnipeg Manitoba, Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by pshep68  I had a friend in California and I was able to get the cabs through him at a bit of discount and jumped at the chance ... and here I am. | Well so whats the problem with them? What were you expecting that they dont have? |
11-08-2012, 07:23 PM
| | | | It almost sound like I was over powering them ... then I turned down the bass & gain on my WTDI and on the 3 pro itself. Initially the gain on the WTDI was at 12:00 and the bass at 1:00 ... then I turned it back to 11:00 & 12:00 respectively ... On the 3 Pro the gain and bass were at 12:00 and I turned it back to 11:00, then 10:00. Didn't like the sound. |
11-08-2012, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dukeisdog Well so whats the problem with them? What were you expecting that they dont have? | I was expecting them to sound alot fuller/bigger than they are. They sound thin. |
11-08-2012, 08:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | | You using the same eq you were with your Eden and expecting the same sound through completely different speakers?
You in a generally bad sounding or unfamilair room?
How far is your stack from the walls?
They may indeed not work out for you in the end......just sayin' don't throw the baby out with the bath water. |
11-08-2012, 08:14 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario CANADA | | | I had these two cabs matched with a GK Fusion head. It was a good match, nothing special....Then, I sold everything and went on the Fender camp...Fender Super Bassman and Neo Pro 410.... Never been happier with my Tone!!!
There is just something missing with the Ampeg Pro Neo cabs, seems like no life comes out of them. They sounded good and handled all the power that I was pushing through. The Fender sounds so much better to my ears!! |
11-08-2012, 08:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada | | | I'm wih you psheps68, i spent 2 grand on the pn115 and pn 410, no warmth or punciness, just harshness, major disapointment |
11-08-2012, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by will33 You using the same eq you were with your Eden and expecting the same sound through completely different speakers?
You in a generally bad sounding or unfamilair room?
How far is your stack from the walls?
They may indeed not work out for you in the end......just sayin' don't throw the baby out with the bath water. | I think my first problem is the 210+15 combination. I'd rather 410's or 610's, etc. I was trying to convince myself (because of the light weight) that the cabs would work out.
Our band had gotten louder over the past year and the 3 pro has probably run it's course. It's not loud enough... but thats another discussion.
You are right about using the same eq & unfamiliar room though. |
11-08-2012, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Turlu I had these two cabs matched with a GK Fusion head. It was a good match, nothing special....Then, I sold everything and went on the Fender camp...Fender Super Bassman and Neo Pro 410.... Never been happier with my Tone!!!
There is just something missing with the Ampeg Pro Neo cabs, seems like no life comes out of them. They sounded good and handled all the power that I was pushing through. The Fender sounds so much better to my ears!! | How many watts is the Fender Super Bassman? I know there is a 100W, but I've heard there is a 200W. |
11-08-2012, 08:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario CANADA | | | The Super Bassman is 300 watts of pure all tube tone glory my friend !
I just had a rehearsal tonight and my bandmates comment on how good the tone is after each song we played! This has been happening since I changed my rig this past summer! |
11-08-2012, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pshep68
How many watts is the Fender Super Bassman? I know there is a 100W, but I've heard there is a 200W.
| 300w
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11-08-2012, 08:44 PM
| | | | Now on to my next order of business ... who wants to buy my Ampeg PN 210 HLF & PN 115 HLF cabs? |
11-08-2012, 08:47 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Heading to Alaska | | | I've used a pair of the PN115's for nearly a year and have nothing but praise for them. I run both an SVT-7PRO and SVT-2PRO and they easily take the wattage and if EQ'd for it can shake the room. I'm not big on mixing cabs but whatever works for you. I'd possibly try another head but if you don't like them just return and give something else a try.
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11-08-2012, 08:50 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Elk River, MN. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by pshep68 Now on to my next order of business ... who wants to buy my Ampeg PN 210 HLF & PN 115 HLF cabs? | If you wanted to sell them you should not have started a thread saying how bad they are......
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11-08-2012, 09:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tasmania, Australia | | | I'd try using just one cab, see how it sounds. If it still sounds poor to you, you'll know it ain't mixing the two that's the prob.
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11-08-2012, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pshep68 Now on to my next order of business ... who wants to buy my Ampeg PN 210 HLF & PN 115 HLF cabs? | Yeah, after reading this thread, not too many........
Good luck! 
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11-08-2012, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pshep68 I was expecting them to sound alot fuller/bigger than they are. They sound thin. | Off-chance the cabinets are out of phase? Try the battery test to make sure...
That would account for thin bass.
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