so, I lost a speaker.

strke-fender · #1 04-28-2010, 06:53 AM

This is a sad day,

I lost the 15" speaker in my Mesa Boogie 1516. I need some counseling on whats next.

The speaker was a 400w 8 ohm ( i believe) ElectroVoice speaker.

I could replace it with a Mesa Powerhouse speaker, but would that be a dramatic change in sound? would it ruin my sound?

Thanks.

mcapote · #2 04-28-2010, 07:03 AM

thats a 15 a 10 and a 6 right? so is the 15 a low frequency woofer? what are the crossover points? 3015LF could fit the bill if the crossover is right. im guessing with a 10 and 6 in there that the 15 probably only handles under 250HZ so you want it as low as you can go flat to whatever the crossover point is.

mcapote · #3 04-28-2010, 07:20 AM

actually i just read it uses a EVM 15L which is 60-6000HZ. the 400 watt pro live is hard to find but i hear you can buy a recone for $80 and recone your own

megadan · #4 04-28-2010, 07:24 AM

The EV speakers came in 200W and 400W varieties and I believe the 200W was more common.

Recone kits are a very popular option for that speaker, as they are highly regarded in some circles. Is that a possibility for your speaker (you'll have to be more specific than 'lost')?

megadan · #5 04-28-2010, 07:26 AM

The guys over at the PRF are big on these speakers:
http://www.electrical.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=16592

Here's the 400W recone kit, even if your original was 200W you can probably recone it to 400 and maybe be better off!
http://www.soundspeakerrepair.com/sp.../15+Inch+Kits/

billfitzmaurice · #6 04-28-2010, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mcapote

thats a 15 a 10 and a 6 right? so is the 15 a low frequency woofer? what are the crossover points? 3015LF could fit the bill if the crossover is right. im guessing with a 10 and 6 in there that the 15 probably only handles under 250HZ so you want it as low as you can go flat to whatever the crossover point is.

The only advantage to the EV lies above 2kHz, and that should be moot in a cab that also has tens and sixes. OTOH the EV has poor low end response, and below 100 Hz where it really counts it will only take 100 watts before farting out. The only disadvantage to the 3015LF is that you'll wonder how you ever managed to get along without it.

krafty · #7 04-28-2010, 07:38 AM

I don't know where you are, but if you want your speaker reconed, I can't recommend these guys highly enough: http://www.circuitshop.com The tech, Richie Dekker and I used to work together for Clear Channel radio and he's awesome. (He's been in the audio business for years, toured with Joan Jett for a while, has fixed more speakers than I could count and spends his spare time repairing old Hammond organs and renting them to performers).

Fire off an email and see what they can do for you.

mcapote · #8 04-28-2010, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

The only advantage to the EV lies above 2kHz, and that should be moot in a cab that also has tens and sixes. OTOH the EV has poor low end response, and below 100 Hz where it really counts it will only take 100 watts before farting out. The only disadvantage to the 3015LF is that you'll wonder how you ever managed to get along without it.

well there you go, I know i love the 3015LF I was just to lazy to check params on the woofers this morning to compare

BassmanPaul · #9 04-28-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mcapote

actually i just read it uses a EVM 15L which is 60-6000HZ. the 400 watt pro live is hard to find but i hear you can buy a recone for $80 and recone your own

My speaker guy, Santon Audio, here in the greater Toronto area charges around $35-45 for a re-cone + the cost of the kit. While a DIY re-cone is possible for that small cost I'd get a professional to do it.

Paul

BassmanPaul · #10 04-28-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by strke-fender

I lost the 15" speaker in my Mesa Boogie 1516.

This is why it's always a good idea to bolt them down firmly so they can't escape!

Paul

mcapote · #11 04-28-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BassmanPaul

My speaker guy, Santon Audio, here in the greater Toronto area charges around $35-45 for a re-cone + the cost of the kit. While a DIY re-cone is possible for that small cost I'd get a professional to do it.

Paul

ive done alot of subwoofer recones over the years, they arent hard as long as you shim the VC properly.

BassmanPaul · #12 04-28-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mcapote

ive done alot of subwoofer recones over the years, they arent hard as long as you shim the VC properly.

Agreed but if you get it wrong you're out a $100 re-cone kit!

Paul

RickenBoogie · #13 04-28-2010, 04:39 PM

Just a simple +1 to the concept of reconing what you've got, providing it isn't actually "lost".

strke-fender · #14 04-28-2010, 10:22 PM

Yes, I still have the speaker.

It sounds like a big muff is blended in just under my tone, all fuzzy and distorted. A great tech I know concluded it needs be re-coned. I appreciate the sarcasm and the help guys.
Thanks.

Munjibunga · #15 04-29-2010, 12:54 AM

So did you look under a few things? It's sure to turn up somewhere.

Caca de Kick · #16 04-29-2010, 01:54 AM

I'd just recone the EV15.
I have a spare EV 15L I bought back in the mid 90's stashed in storage for 'just in case'. Knock on wood haven't needed it.

I've read good reports about the 3015LF here on TB, but I couldn't imagine needing more low end, and I like the crisp biting mids the EV's have been known for.

rpsands · #17 04-29-2010, 03:06 AM

Get a new cabinet, the 1516 is an atrocious design.

Crazyeelboy · #18 04-29-2010, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Munjibunga

So did you look under a few things? It's sure to turn up somewhere.

Did you check your pockets? Where did you leave it last?

strke-fender · #19 04-29-2010, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rpsands

Get a new cabinet, the 1516 is an atrocious design.

Thanks for your opinion

edbass · #20 04-29-2010, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by strke-fender

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Originally Posted by rpsands

Get a new cabinet, the 1516 is an atrocious design.

Thanks for your opinion

The clueless always seem to have an opinion, and said opinion(s) generally reinforce the fact that they are indeed clueless.

Were you happy with the cab before your woofer "went missing"? If so, why not recone the driver you have?
IMO the chances of some amateur self proclaimed "internet guru" suggesting improvements that are actually fruitful on a tried and true sucessful design like your 1516 are about like your chances of winning the lottery.

Both can happen, just not very likely.