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Old 09-24-2012, 03:15 PM
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You don't have to believe me. I really don't care. And I really don't care what you think of the stuff I bring to my gigs. My rig is there for me. Do people walk out the times I bring a micro rig? No they don't. But I can tell the difference, and that's enough. Other people digging it is just a bonus.
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:32 PM
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I'm standing by what I said. JimmyM said that a non-music person would come up to him and say he sounded better with his bigger gear. Come on, man.
You said there was a problem with your gear the night before. That's a different story. You also twisted around what I said. Of course they'd miss an electric bass if it was missing. Cripes sake, man! I didn't say they couldn't tell the difference with the bass missing.
I also did not say the bass and drums were psychoacoustic. There is a certain mental thing going on with a bigger rig, but not to a dancing honey on the dance floor. As long as the bass is decent, solid state or tube, it doesn't matter.
So, if what you're saying is true, then, if I bring 2 8x10 cabinets and crank it up so it's big and full, the dance floor will fill up faster and the honeys will be happier?
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My rig was quite audible but was noticeably better the next time. Same rig.

Dismissing your audiences ears is done at your peril. My opinion.

I have heard many bands that you couldn't tell what kind of instruments are being used much less what amps. So I get it when people say it doesn't matter. Imagine if you will if each musician carefully selected their tools and sonically slotted themselves so each is very distinct. Then even in loud rock n roll you can hear that the guitarist switched from his PRS to a Tele.

This I when the subtleties come out.

I support you standing by your opinion. May we share audiences one day.

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Old 09-24-2012, 04:13 PM
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My rig was quite audible but was noticeably better the next time. Same rig.

Dismissing your audiences ears is done at your peril. My opinion.

I have heard many bands that you couldn't tell what kind of instruments are being used much less what amps. So I get it when people say it doesn't matter. Imagine if you will if each musician carefully selected their tools and sonically slotted themselves so each is very distinct. Then even in loud rock n roll you can hear that the guitarist switched from his PRS to a Tele.

This I when the subtleties come out.

I support you standing by your opinion. May we share audiences one day.
I agree with everything you said. I don't only play for MY satisfaction, I play to please a crowd. When they dance it's all worth it. If I can look over to the guitar player and smile, he knows what I mean.
Sometimes I open my mouth and regret it. This is one of those times. It just bothers me when someone says that a non-music person can tell the difference between:
1. A decent cabinet with a decent amp (SS) big enough to do the job and EQ'ed properly with:

2. A tube amp (everything else being equal).
All I can say for sure is, that if I get the bass sounding the way I like it, I play better and the band sounds better.
Yes, you're also right in that typically, even with a blindfold on, you could probably hear the difference in a Tele and anything else with a humbucker.
I don't hate JimmyM. I don't even dislike him. I just find some things on here are really out there.
Yeah, sharing audiences would be cool. There's a lot of people on TB I'd like to hear, judging by their posts and what they say.

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Old 09-24-2012, 04:28 PM
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You don't have to believe me. I really don't care. And I really don't care what you think of the stuff I bring to my gigs. My rig is there for me. Do people walk out the times I bring a micro rig? No they don't. But I can tell the difference, and that's enough. Other people digging it is just a bonus.
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:35 PM
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Perhaps it's already been solidly stated ;-), but I've not read it yet here...
Jaco & John Paul Jones used solid state amps. Very different styles and tones, yet I love 'em both.
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:41 PM
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Perhaps it's already been solidly stated ;-), but I've not read it yet here...
Jaco & John Paul Jones used solid state amps. Very different styles and tones, yet I love 'em both.
A lot of players came up through a generation when bass amps were hit-or-miss, and they (we?) figured out how to cope. This is where phrases such as "the tone is in my hands" and "I can get my tone out of any amp" come from.

Would they choose the same amps today? Maybe and maybe not. I wouldn't choose the same amps that got me through the 80's.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:23 PM
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Oh well, all I can say is my SS amps sound fine to me. Tube amps sound fine, too, and I do get to play a V4 with an 810 sometimes. Better? Nah, just different as far as I'm concerned. Other musicians compliment me on my sound with my Markbass LMIII and 2x15s. But, even if no one approves of my equipment, so what? Maybe I don't like the color of their socks either.
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:48 PM
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I think it is basically personal preference at this point. Some like the tube sound some like the solid state sound. With solid state amps you do not have to buy or replace any tubes and I even heard sometimes solid state amps require less maintenance. There are benefits of both types of amps but it comes down to what you are looking for in a amp features and sound wise. My Peavey T-Max amp has both a tube and solid state channel. I use the tube for dirty and distortion tones and the solid state for clean tones.
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