Some advice needed

DerTeufel · #1 12-22-2011, 06:53 PM

Ok..I've done some searching through the threads but haven't found anything that answers my query. I have an early 90's Hartke 410XL Transient Attack cabinet powered by a Kustom KB200 head. My main bass is an ESP LTD B-55 with Roto flats. The band that I am in plays cover tunes (CCR, ZZ Top, Tom Petty, etc). My rig is plenty loud enough to cut through the mix and it has a great growl tone that I dig, but I would like to add a little warmth to the bottom end. I've played with the EQ and have it close to want I want without causing the drivers to distort. Any suggestions on how I can go about this? Many thanks in advance.

Aaron

FronTowardEnemy · #2 12-22-2011, 06:57 PM

Get a Tech 21 VT Bass pedal.

SurferJoe46 · #3 12-22-2011, 09:51 PM

MXR80 DI+ Bass. You will be amazed when you fire it up, plus it has a DI output.

sad_katz · #4 12-22-2011, 10:36 PM

VT Bass (/Deluxe), Bass Driver DI (BDDI), Hartke Bass Attack, Markbass Super Booster. Either of these three pedals should do it.

DerTeufel · #5 12-23-2011, 07:51 AM

I had neglected to mention that I have a Digitech BP90. I suppose I could try using it as a preamp pedal.

DerTeufel · #6 12-23-2011, 04:33 PM

Thank you all for your replies. I've tried to get the tone that I want out of this cabinet but it's just not working for me. I don't fancy those aluminum drivers. I'm a fan of big 12" or 15" drivers, so I am going to sell off the Hartke and get two 1x12's or 1x15's.

SurferJoe46 · #7 12-23-2011, 05:23 PM

I feel that the aluminum cones are too brilliant too. They don't sound tome to have any real punch in the lows, but they can melt paint OK, if that's what you want and if you have enough Wattage to do it.

I tried their 4-10s, and they sound like someone singing with a batch of marbles in their mouth when you go for an open E.

DerTeufel · #8 12-23-2011, 06:04 PM

The Fender Rumble 15 practice amp that I have sounds better to me than that 4x10 does.

dog1 · #9 12-23-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DerTeufel

The Fender Rumble 15 practice amp that I have sounds better to me than that 4x10 does.

What? Then try a different 410

DerTeufel · #10 12-23-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dog1

What? Then try a different 410

I did. The only one that sounded good to me was an Ampeg SVT-410HLF, and that is way out of my budget.

rodl2005 · #11 12-23-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DerTeufel

I did. The only one that sounded good to me was an Ampeg SVT-410HLF, and that is way out of my budget.

What other 410's did you try?

jellymax · #12 12-23-2011, 08:58 PM

you could get a bit more volume from that cab with more power. i believe that you are close to your max for the amp & cab as well. a louder cab & a more powerful amp would
be ideal, but you could try 1 at time to fit your budget.

if you post up whats avail on craigslist in your area, you will get a lot of help here. it
really works

DerTeufel · #13 12-23-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rodl2005

What other 410's did you try?

Acoustic 410, GK 410MBE, a used GK 410 Backline, and a used Peavey 410

Quote:

Originally Posted by jellymax

you could get a bit more volume from that cab with more power. i believe that you are close to your max for the amp & cab as well. a louder cab & a more powerful amp would
be ideal, but you could try 1 at time to fit your budget.

if you post up whats avail on craigslist in your area, you will get a lot of help here. it
really works

I'm not looking for more volume. I get plenty of volume out of that single 4x10 cabinet. I want a little meat to the bottom end.

As far as cabinet availability in my area, here is what there is:

Carvin Bass Cab
crate b215 bass cab for sale
Bass Speaker System

I will also add that the band leader has an Ampeg SVT-CL head and an Ampeg SVT 8x10 cab. He has stated that should we ever play a venue where more volume is needed, we can just bring that. I'm cool with that, however, I have this quirk about me where I prefer to use my own stuff.

rodl2005 · #14 12-23-2011, 10:19 PM

You should be able to find a SVT 410HLF 2nd hand. Might have to be patient....

JimmyM · #15 12-24-2011, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DerTeufel

I will also add that the band leader has an Ampeg SVT-CL head and an Ampeg SVT 8x10 cab. He has stated that should we ever play a venue where more volume is needed, we can just bring that. I'm cool with that, however, I have this quirk about me where I prefer to use my own stuff.

I'd get over it real quick to use that rig!

DerTeufel · #16 12-24-2011, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

I'd get over it real quick to use that rig!

Lol..I suspected that you might say something similar to that. I have no qualms about using it..it's a really sweet rig. I guess I just want to be happy about my rig.

randysmojo · #17 12-24-2011, 02:04 PM

If you can handle the weight, the Hartke 4.5XL has better lows than the regular 410XL. The cabinet is made 3 inches deeper and it makes a big difference. Those can be found pretty cheap if you look.

DerTeufel · #18 12-26-2011, 04:59 PM

I just picked up a JBL 4625 1x15 cab. I tried it by itself and it sounds amaaaaaaaazing. Just for giggles I plugged the Hartke cab into it..I'm very pleased with the resulting sound. I know some dislike the idea of running a 15 with a 410, or even mixing different cabinet manufacturers, but my ears liked what they heard. I wouldn't hesitate in running the JBL cab by itself at a gig, and if I need that extra volume, I could either plug the 410 into it or use the band leader's Ampeg SVT rig.