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01-23-2012, 11:00 AM
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First of all - I'm a huge GK fan. I have (2) SBX410 cabs that are in storage due to a speaker issue in one of them. It appears the wire lead that goes through the cone to the voice coil has come "loose" and makes a buzzing sound. GK doesn't make these speakers anymore so I moved onto a Mesa PH610. My question is this: The SBX cabs are rated at 400w each. My 700rbII is rated at 540w @4ohms. If I run 2 of these cabs, is there any danger with frying the speakers? I play speed metal with a five string and am wondering if 400w cabs will be able to handle this current setup. 
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01-23-2012, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by slap5string First of all - I'm a huge GK fan. I have (2) SBX410 cabs that are in storage due to a speaker issue in one of them. It appears the wire lead that goes through the cone to the voice coil has come "loose" and makes a buzzing sound. GK doesn't make these speakers anymore so I moved onto a Mesa PH610. My question is this: The SBX cabs are rated at 400w each. My 700rbII is rated at 540w @4ohms. If I run 2 of these cabs, is there any danger with frying the speakers? I play speed metal with a five string and am wondering if 400w cabs will be able to handle this current setup.  | Well, I don't know if your setup can handle the speed metal, the rappid succession of notes will make the voice coils burn out faster....16th notes at 140 beats per minute will be the max. 
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01-23-2012, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by slap5string First of all - I'm a huge GK fan. I have (2) SBX410 cabs that are in storage due to a speaker issue in one of them. It appears the wire lead that goes through the cone to the voice coil has come "loose" and makes a buzzing sound. GK doesn't make these speakers anymore so I moved onto a Mesa PH610. My question is this: The SBX cabs are rated at 400w each. My 700rbII is rated at 540w @4ohms. If I run 2 of these cabs, is there any danger with frying the speakers? I play speed metal with a five string and am wondering if 400w cabs will be able to handle this current setup.  | What impedance (ohm rating) are the SBX410 cabs? if they are 8ohms and you wire them parallel, the amp will send 270 watts to each cabinet. So it should be no problem.
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01-23-2012, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Arjank Well, I don't know if your setup can handle the speed metal, the rappid succession of notes will make the voice coils burn out faster....16th notes at 140 beats per minute will be the max. | What?  | 
01-23-2012, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray Salamon What?  | I was just jokin' man! 
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01-23-2012, 11:52 AM
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01-23-2012, 11:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Left Coast | | | Would it be possible to fix the loose wire with a dab of hot glue or something? As long the voice coil isnt open,shorted, or binding, it should be a simple matter to repair it. IMO. | 
01-23-2012, 11:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dallas, TX | | | You should be alright, but be aware, ANY amp is capable of blowing ANY speaker cab. Wattage ratings aside, it's more to do with the mechanical limitations of the speakers, (which is NOT rated), and how much low end you dial in with the amps eq. Use your ears is the best advice you'll get.
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01-23-2012, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RickenBoogie You should be alright, but be aware, ANY amp is capable of blowing ANY speaker cab. Wattage ratings aside, it's more to do with the mechanical limitations of the speakers, (which is NOT rated), and how much low end you dial in with the amps eq. Use your ears is the best advice you'll get. | True, only a few watts and the right signal can rip the leads off a woofers voicecoil. But it is pretty rare that something like this happens, most woofers are constructed in such a way that the leads will never be under such a tension that they are going to be ripped off (only some older designs I know of)
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01-23-2012, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by skychief Would it be possible to fix the loose wire with a dab of hot glue or something? As long the voice coil isnt open,shorted, or binding, it should be a simple matter to repair it. IMO. | If that's the only problem, yeah, he could re-glue it. Use superglue gel. Hot melt could....well....melt.  | 
01-23-2012, 01:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | | On second thought, may want to maintain some flexibility there so your repair doesn't crack or shatter things further. Can use RTV automotive silicone gasket maker stuff there. It'll stay rubbery and withstand high temp. | 
01-23-2012, 02:30 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | yea, I was thinking about repairing it myself also, but didn't know if it was worth the trouble if the cabs can't handle the abuse. They are both 8ohms and I'm using the recommended GK speakon cables. The cone isn't damaged and the wire lead is still intact. The adhesive has come un-done and is rubbing on the wire lead creating a scratchy sound. If the cabs will only be getting 280w each from the amp - I would think all would be fine. NO?
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01-23-2012, 03:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | | They'll work fine, should be a cheap, DIY glue fix. | 
01-23-2012, 04:03 PM
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