SPEAKER CABLES!

[dincz]

Originally Posted by Balog

The placebo effect is a well documented phenomena, so it is very possible you will "hear" a difference.

No, it's a well documented phenomenon

[Munjibunga]

Look. Most will agree that you're not going to hear any difference between 14 gauge speaker cable and 10 gauge. But you've still got to deal with your OCD. Why not buy a ProCo Guardian Fat Max 8-gauge cable and lay this issue to rest. It's not going to cost an arm and a leg, and you're not going to be lying awake in bed all night wondering about this. It'll be worth it.

Fat Max makes every other speaker cable look like it's on a diet. The truth of the matter is that to provide proper damping factor and have really tight low end that produces the tonality of your instrument you need lots of copper. Lots of current (volume) needs lots of copper. Fax Max's 8 gauge cable is as much bigger than 12 gauge as 12 gauge is to 16 gauge. 256% bigger in fact.

[cnltb]

Originally Posted by NOZMEDA

I'm a severe audiophile. So, Im constantly lookin at my setup and searching for the "weakest link" that limits my rig from sounding the best it can. With that being said, and with what I currently own, I only notice one weak link. My speaker cable from head to cab. Im using a 450w@4ohm head with a 4ohm cab. My speaker cable is a 14g speakon. Does anyone know, however subtle, if there would be a sonic difference by increasing the gauge to 10 or 12? Would i burn out the cabinet's internal wiring due to its assumed smaller gauge? Any input about anything posted here would be helpful.

Not only gauge but also material of the wire would be an aspect to look at. Also, possibly upgrading the internal wiring of the cabs may be worth looking at.
You may well get an improvement when you do some of that.
I did, when replacing speaker wire some time ago, going from copper to high purity silver and upping the gauge a little as well as going for shorter cables.
I am quite happy now.

[Seans]

Originally Posted by NOZMEDA

I'm a severe audiophile. So, Im constantly lookin at my setup and searching for the "weakest link" that limits my rig from sounding the best it can. With that being said, and with what I currently own, I only notice one weak link. My speaker cable from head to cab. Im using a 450w@4ohm head with a 4ohm cab. My speaker cable is a 14g speakon. Does anyone know, however subtle, if there would be a sonic difference by increasing the gauge to 10 or 12? Would i burn out the cabinet's internal wiring due to its assumed smaller gauge? Any input about anything posted here would be helpful.

If you're an Audiophile, ( I've been there ), you've got some spare hifi speaker cable lying around from your last upgrade?, connect it up and try it. I still use some old Cable Talk (UK £5 mtr) heavy copper, I can hear a difference, but in general (to avoid getting a slagging for this extended freq and that BS) it's louder. Avoid any silver content cables though, it's too bright.

[dincz]

Originally Posted by Seans

Avoid any silver content cables though, it's too bright.

If you mean silver reflects more light than copper, then OK.

[Bassmec]

Whereas hyperlitz twisted cable construction in silver plated oxygen free copper may offer a very very slight improvement in conductivity over conventional oxygen free copper flex of a given cable gage the most marked improvements are found in running solidified mercury cable in very low temperature environments.
Soon after its discovery in 1911 by Dutch physicist Heike Kamerlingh Onnes and his collaborators, Cornelis Dorsman, Gerrit Jan Flim and Gilles Holst, superconductivity inspired dreams of no-loss electrical transmission. Unfortunately, there was a catch.
Superconductors require very cold temperatures, on the order of 39 kelvins (minus 234 C, minus 389 F) for conventional superconductors. The solid mercury wire that Kamerlingh Onnes used required temperatures below 4.2 K (minus 269.0 C, minus 452.1 F). Even so-called high-temperature superconductors only work their magic below 130 K (minus 143 C, minus 225.7 F).
To make matters worse, superconductors leave their resistance-less state if they are exposed to too large a magnetic field -- or too much electricity.
All was not lost, however. Modern superconductors, such as niobium-titanium (NbTi), have raised the bar on how much magnetic load they can tolerate. Their superior magnetic fields make them useful in certain maglev trains, as well as in proton accelerators, such as the one at Fermilab, or MRI machines, their most common application. In the near future, researchers hope to use them in emerging power technologies, such as energy storage systems or high-efficiency wind turbines.
Therefore I would suggest that by running niobium-titanium speaker cable within a tube constantly replenished with liquid nitrogen, much greater improvements In the performance of loudspeaker cables can be found, neatly combined with a handy fog machine effect for live performance. Don't go off half cocked go the hole hog why don't ya.

[wcriley]

The Criley-Core Technologies speaker cables are built out of these:

[guy n. cognito]

Originally Posted by wcriley

The Criley-Core Technologies speaker cables are built out of these:

Oh, the tone than must come from that naturalized metallic corrosion!!!!

[daveman50]

Originally Posted by wcriley

The Criley-Core Technologies speaker cables are built out of these:

Brings new meaning to the concept of sound reinforcement.

[Jeff Scott]

Hey, where's the OP go, seems to have disappeared!

[Stephent28]

Originally Posted by Stephent28

Why do people buy a swimming pool for $50K that they use once a week and beret people who spent $50K on a home theater as wasting money...

Originally Posted by bongomania

You just made that up.

LOL...no actually that is a true story. A very wealthy friend of mine who owns a large home on the golf course with swimming pool and several high end cars (Lamborghini is one of them, can't think of the other) but listens to music through an mp3 player connected to a boom box asked me in all seriousness how could I spend 50K on a home theater system.

When I asked him how he could spend over 10K a year for car insurance (for 1 car that he drove maybe once a month) and pay someone monthly to clean his pool that he used very rarely, he said that "it was different" and that his "toys" were justified.

Again, it goes with what I said earlier. If it makes you happy, who cares what others think. If you can afford it do it....but I also agree that you don't go and spend your grocery money on something that oft times does nothing more than make you "feel good".

[Jeff Scott]

Originally Posted by Stephent28

LOL...no actually that is a true story. A very wealthy friend of mine who owns a large home on the golf course with swimming pool and several high end cars (Lamborghini is one of them, can't think of the other) but listens to music through an mp3 player connected to a boom box asked me in all seriousness how could I spend 50K on a home theater system.

When I asked him how he could spend over 10K a year for car insurance (for 1 car that he drove maybe once a month) and pay someone monthly to clean his pool that he used very rarely, he said that "it was different" and that his "toys" were justified.

That is just down to personal priorities so it makes perfect sense, really.

[NYCbassist]

I think it's worth learning as much as you can about this. I understand some cables are not meant for Speakers. G/C Sales clerk may have just handed you a cable that was the right length etc...

I applaud you for expanding you knowledge base.

[Mehve]

Originally Posted by wcriley

The Criley-Core Technologies speaker cables are built out of these:

Ferric-Oxide impregnated signal pathways! Each one with it's own unique pattern!

[Stephent28]

Originally Posted by Mehve

Ferric-Oxide impregnated signal pathways! Each one with it's own unique pattern!

just make sure that the signal path is flowing in the proper direction!

[Jeff Scott]

Originally Posted by Mehve

Ferric-Oxide impregnated signal pathways! Each one with it's own unique pattern!

That would make sense for the + and - signal paths to be optimized for best signal transfer. When using more than one set paying attention to correct polarity is critical for the optimum performance.

[wcriley]

The Criley-Core SuperCable owner's manual specifically states that once the electrons are aligned (after 63 hours of continuous use), the signal path should never be reversed.

[Munjibunga]

Originally Posted by wcriley

The Criley-Core SuperCable owner's manual specifically states that once the electrons are aligned (after 63 hours of continuous use), the signal path should never be reversed.

That's correct. It confuses the electrons.

[chadds]

Originally Posted by wcriley

The Criley-Core SuperCable owner's manual specifically states that once the electrons are aligned (after 63 hours of continuous use), the signal path should never be reversed.

Isn't it 63.2 hours?

[wcriley]

You must be thinking of the Series 1.2a cables. They had slightly less concrete on them than the current series 3.9v4 SuperCables.