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11-25-2012, 02:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Cape Girardeau, MO | | | And honestly, at shows youre only gonna sound as good as the house pa unless youre big and bring your own in on semi trucks or whatever. | 
11-25-2012, 02:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Cape Girardeau, MO | | | So. I guess that over all these comments, the general concensus is that speaker cable makes little difference if any. The quality increase happens everywhere in your rig up until the output of the head. At least for signal generation. Excluding how cabinets sound and how much better ampegs are than anything else. | 
11-25-2012, 02:18 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lake Havasu City, Az USA | | I can't believe 7 pages on speaker cables????? Oh wait.......this is Talk Bass. 
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Originally Posted by beans-on-toast
I told my manager that I wanted a regular gig. She told me to try prune juice.
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11-25-2012, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NOZMEDA So. I guess that over all these comments, the general concensus is that speaker cable makes little difference if any. The quality increase happens everywhere in your rig up until the output of the head. At least for signal generation. Excluding how cabinets sound and how much better ampegs are than anything else. | Or how much worse..............
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11-25-2012, 02:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Cape Girardeau, MO | | | Are guitarists this detailed? Are people who choose to play bass smarter or atleast more ocd about their gear? | 
11-25-2012, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bass_Pounder Or how much worse.............. | Tsk tsk. Looks like you arent a fan yet. Dont worry, itll come. | 
11-25-2012, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NOZMEDA Are guitarists this detailed? Are people who choose to play bass smarter or atleast more ocd about their gear? | Guitarists worry about how binding (or no binding) on the body and neck of their guitar affects their TONE!
Bassists know better than that, right? 
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11-25-2012, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NOZMEDA Tsk tsk. Looks like you arent a fan yet. Dont worry, itll come. | After over 30 years of gigging, it is not going to "come" any time soon.
Much more out there.
P.S. - that was the unwritten joke in the first pages of your thread........"look elsewhere, it's not your cables"
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11-25-2012, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NOZMEDA A two conductor is hardly high definition any way you look at it though. | Oh, my. You're crossing wires all over the place.
High definition is primarily a term applicable to the digital realm. Sampling rate & depths for audio. Resolution, pixel density, color depth, etc for visual media.
Btw, "hi-def" digital audio carriers are often two conductors. Sometimes just one. (Toslink, for example.) | 
11-25-2012, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bass_Pounder After over 30 years of gigging, it is not going to "come" any time soon.
Much more out there.
P.S. - that was the unwritten joke in the first pages of your thread........"look elsewhere, it's not your cables" | I came to it decades ago............and moved on 
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Originally Posted by beans-on-toast
I told my manager that I wanted a regular gig. She told me to try prune juice.
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11-25-2012, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Scott Guitarists worry about how binding (or no binding) on the body and neck of their guitar affects their TONE!
Bassists know better than that, right?  | I dont understand... binding? Is there another term? | 
11-25-2012, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by makohund Oh, my. You're crossing wires all over the place.
High definition is primarily a term applicable to the digital realm. Sampling rate & depths for audio. Resolution, pixel density, color depth, etc for visual media.
Btw, "hi-def" digital audio carriers are often two conductors. Sometimes just one. (Toslink, for example.) | O I C. So basically itd have to be some sort of digital bass system to apply. | 
11-25-2012, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NOZMEDA I dont understand... binding? Is there another term? | The prosecution rests their case!
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11-25-2012, 02:57 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lake Havasu City, Az USA | | | Binding is that little strip that runs along the side of the neck just at the fretboard. Some solid and hollow bodies use binding on the body as well.
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Originally Posted by beans-on-toast
I told my manager that I wanted a regular gig. She told me to try prune juice.
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11-25-2012, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bass_Pounder After over 30 years of gigging, it is not going to "come" any time soon.
Much more out there.
P.S. - that was the unwritten joke in the first pages of your thread........"look elsewhere, it's not your cables" | Oh i remember that. Haha. If i could find a cab of another brand that has a low freq output of 28Hz or lower id check it out. My only problem is that i dont have the 28Hz available to push. My head only does 48Hz. Idk how itd apply when tuning your low b down to an E0(which is 20.6Hz). It may just push out harmonics or octaves of the same note. Idk. | 
11-25-2012, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NOZMEDA
Oh i remember that. Haha. If i could find a cab of another brand that has a low freq output of 28Hz or lower id check it out. My only problem is that i dont have the 28Hz available to push. My head only does 48Hz. Idk how itd apply when tuning your low b down to an E0(which is 20.6Hz). It may just push out harmonics or octaves of the same note. Idk. | Your cab is fine. | 
11-25-2012, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by B-string Binding is that little strip that runs along the side of the neck just at the fretboard. Some solid and hollow bodies use binding on the body as well. | Oh. My acoustic bass has that. None of my others though. That sounds like a stupid talking point for guitarists. | 
11-25-2012, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NOZMEDA Oh i remember that. Haha. If i could find a cab of another brand that has a low freq output of 28Hz or lower id check it out. My only problem is that i dont have the 28Hz available to push. My head only does 48Hz. Idk how itd apply when tuning your low b down to an E0(which is 20.6Hz). It may just push out harmonics or octaves of the same note. Idk. | So much to learn...............
You can't hear those frequencies anyway, you feel them.
And I am 100% sure your cab which "rated down to 28hz" will not put it out at any appreciable volume anyway.
Do a search here for "waterfall plot" to see what is really going on.
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11-25-2012, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NOZMEDA Oh i remember that. Haha. If i could find a cab of another brand that has a low freq output of 28Hz or lower id check it out. My only problem is that i dont have the 28Hz available to push. My head only does 48Hz. Idk how itd apply when tuning your low b down to an E0(which is 20.6Hz). It may just push out harmonics or octaves of the same note. Idk. | So you have not learned yet that the second harmonic is predominate from a bass guitar, not the "fundamental"? Or that frequencies that low turn to stage mud and can destroy the overall mix?
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Originally Posted by beans-on-toast
I told my manager that I wanted a regular gig. She told me to try prune juice.
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11-25-2012, 03:06 PM
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