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Old 11-09-2010, 04:11 AM
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Question speaker cant be used with poweramp??

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i have two of these speakers the 18inch sub and the 3way top
http://www.kv2audio.com/ES-series.asp i got em cheap,but reading the manual it says not too connect them too a power amp only too their own brand amp,could this damage the speakers or is it just so you buy their brand amp?
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:12 AM
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it's marketing. use any amp. If you look on the Fender warranty card it says that Fender strings are needed for "optimum performance" or something similar.
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:14 AM
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thats kinda what i was thinking,the reccomended amp costs 4grand which i wont buy when i paid 150quid for the speakers lol
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Old 11-09-2010, 06:02 AM
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it's marketing. use any amp. If you look on the Fender warranty card it says that Fender strings are needed for "optimum performance" or something similar.
BS. Dangerous BS at that no less. That's a tri-/quad-amp separates active system without the amps nor cross-overs in the cabs.

OP, You had the setup and the needs explained in the another thread about these cabs. Use'em as-is, and You will blow the mid-range and the horn.

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Old 11-09-2010, 06:13 AM
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it's marketing. use any amp.
Not necessarily. Most high end PA systems require specific DSP to work properly, and this might be one of those cases. The speakers will work with any amp, but they may not work the way they're supposed to. Worst case you might blow the drivers.
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Old 11-09-2010, 06:18 AM
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hmm i think i might just sell em then,cheers
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Old 11-09-2010, 06:32 AM
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hmm i think i might just sell em then,cheers
Probably the best option, unless You're willing to spend some more for the DSP and two stereo amps.

Have You heard the cabs in action?

Going the dreaded Behringer route would mean about 700€ into the proverbial hole. Choosing quality would only double the bill.

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Old 11-09-2010, 08:26 AM
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That's the speakers we were talking about in your other thread. There are no crossovers, the amp that goes with them is a 4channel amp with 1 channel for each speaker, built in crossover, etc. You could either by a 4-way active crossover and 2 poweramps.....build your own passive crossovers to install in the cabs or better yet, go back to the racetrack, pickup the amp made for them and either resell it as a package or put a good pre in front of it.

Edit: They say to only use their amp because of the lack of crossovers. If you plug a regular bass amp or power amp into them, either all the speakers would get a full range signal likely blowing the top 2 or it would only play one of the drivers at a time, again if that ended up being the tweeter or upper mid driver, it'd likely take it out.

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Old 11-09-2010, 09:13 AM
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the cheapest bi-amp bass head is a Carvin BX
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:15 AM
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the cheapest bi-amp bass head is a Carvin BX
Probably.

But then again, he would need two to run that rig. And he would still need the DSP.

Just my 0.02€
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:39 AM
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Crossovers would be needed, but you should be able to find some easily, although most crossovers are 3-way, but if you don't drive them hard, you may be able to get away with a 3-way and let 2 of the speakers share one signal, but you'd definitely need 2 power amps.

I seem to recall certain Crown amps offering some level of DSP, might be worth looking into.
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:28 PM
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D'oh, I guess you learn something new everyday.

Perfect example of why you should take everything on the interwebz with a grain of salt.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:08 PM
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i always make sure and ask stuff on here and see what the general consensus is before i wander off and do things
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