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01-16-2012, 06:23 AM
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Car audio subs come in square designs now, why not bass and other MI speakers?
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01-16-2012, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jondog why not bass and other MI speakers? | Because there's no advantage to it. Auto sound manufacturers do so because their average customers are even worse than musicians when it comes to buying gear based purely on looks.  | 
01-16-2012, 06:58 AM
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01-16-2012, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice Because there's no advantage to it. Auto sound manufacturers do so because their average customers are even worse than musicians when it comes to buying gear based purely on looks.  | OK, is there any disadvantage to it?
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01-16-2012, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jondog OK, is there any disadvantage to it? | The only real disadvantage is that it's hard to get the entire band with all their gear to play a gig in your car.  | 
01-16-2012, 07:14 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: alberta canada | | | Yamaha had a guitar amp out in the late 60s that had a big square speaker in it. | 
01-16-2012, 07:19 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Baltimore,MD USA | | | Seems to me that square speakers would introduce a structural weakness, however slight, into the operation of a driver. Tight corners are more likely to fatigue and tear than the consistent, continuous line of a circle.
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01-16-2012, 08:12 AM
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01-16-2012, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Matthijs You might also expect some weird dispersion patterns. | That, and they wouldn't be as strong as round cones. If square cones made sense they'd be common. They don't, so they aren't. | 
01-16-2012, 02:20 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Zealand | | | I have a pair of Sony "Super Acoustic Turbo" monitor spekers in front of me with a 3 way set of square drivers, just a novelty factor i'm sure.
I have had this long time fantasy of designing a sub woofer using a 1200 x 2400mm sheet of MDF panel driven by 4 PWM controlled hydralic rams with a 500mm excursion.
That one is filed along side my floorshaker thoughts on using Silo bin shakers (electric motor with ecentric offset weights) using frequency-to-speed control for 1~20 Hz
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01-16-2012, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gumtownbassman I have a pair of Sony "Super Acoustic Turbo" monitor spekers in front of me with a 3 way set of square drivers, just a novelty factor i'm sure.
I have had this long time fantasy of designing a sub woofer using a 1200 x 2400mm sheet of MDF panel driven by 4 PWM controlled hydralic rams with a 500mm excursion.
That one is filed along side my floorshaker thoughts on using Silo bin shakers (electric motor with ecentric offset weights) using frequency-to-speed control for 1~20 Hz | Check fan woofers: Rotary woofer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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01-16-2012, 02:38 PM
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Sounded pretty impressive.....zero worth for MI use though. In that application, it's pretty much just a big piston. 10" square has more area than a 10" circle. | 
01-16-2012, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by username1 Yamaha had a guitar amp out in the late 60s that had a big square speaker in it. | A mate of mine has one of those, really awesome clean sound.
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01-16-2012, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice That, and they wouldn't be as strong as round cones. If square cones made sense they'd be common. They don't, so they aren't. | for somthing to take over from its main rival it has to be better in every aspect not just in 1 or 2
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01-16-2012, 04:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA | | | I would expect that a circular design would be structurally stronger than a square. That seems to be the case. I expect that this is why you don't see more square drivers.
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01-16-2012, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by username1 Yamaha had a guitar amp out in the late 60s that had a big square speaker in it. | Not quite square! Yamaha
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01-16-2012, 06:16 PM
| | | | Drop a pebble in a pond. When you begin to see the waves go out in a square pattern, you'll begin to see square speakers. | 
01-16-2012, 06:20 PM
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01-16-2012, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Blankandson Drop a pebble in a pond. When you begin to see the waves go out in a square pattern, you'll begin to see square speakers. | They make square speakers.
Kicker Solo-Baric. There is a picture a few posts above.
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01-16-2012, 06:31 PM
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Also it looks like a TV cabinet from the 1960's
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