Streamliner vs Shuttle 9.0 Doubling

Red Planet · #1 07-29-2011, 06:21 PM

I've not gigged much lately and have some upcoming gigs.

For doubling is there that big a difference or some major reason as I should use one over the other?

I remember some folks saying the Shuttle was better suited for Upright but I just love the Streamliner so. It sounds fine and dandy to me.

I know compression does not work well with Acoustic Upright and the Streamliner has that tubey compression thing going.

This gig will be a regular thing in a small crowded room. Music is traditional Boogie Woogie Blues.

I'll be using one Bergantino HT112ER as well as one of my P Basses.

rodl2005 · #2 07-29-2011, 09:02 PM

I've only used my Shuttle 6.0 with my upright-due to it having the sweepable mids. Works great.

vin*tone · #3 07-30-2011, 12:48 AM

Do you use a preamp DI? The Shuttle has more EQ options.

rodl2005 · #4 07-30-2011, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by vin*tone

Do you use a preamp DI? The Shuttle has more EQ options.

I've done both with the Shuttle 6.0 & tbh, both worked fine. SURE using the platinum + pro preamp gives me the option of a graphic EQ, compression, phase etc, but I've had no issues going direct into the Shuttle on many occasions.
Haven't used the STL with uprite as yet.

Red Planet · #5 07-30-2011, 07:11 AM

I should have mentioned I use the Fdeck. It's the only way to fly.

Also I use the Realist. I like that pillowy thunderous bottom and rarely want more mids. I feel mids compete with the rest of the band in this project, contrary to TB folklore.

I do not think it will be an EQ issue for me. There is no way anyone will miss me with the 500 watts from either coming through one HT112ER.

Is there any other reason not to use the Streamliner over the 9.0?

Tunaman · #6 07-30-2011, 07:16 AM

The only reason I use the shuttle over the Streamliner is if I'm concerned about being too muddy but if that doesn't end up being the case then I usually grab the Streamliner, especially if my backline is doing a majority of the projection into the crowd... but this is for a church gig. If I was doing punk rock I'd probably go Streamliner

vin*tone · #7 07-30-2011, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Planet

I should have mentioned I use the Fdeck. It's the only way to fly.

Also I use the Realist. I like that pillowy thunderous bottom and rarely want more mids. I feel mids compete with the rest of the band in this project, contrary to TB folklore. ...

Thunderous lows can be a bad thing if you can't tame boomy feedback on a gig. Given that you don't have a parametric pre I'd go with the Shuttle - the semi para EQ will be handy. The Streamliner is designed to give fatness with minimal fuss - meaning not much of an EQ toolkit.

I use a Realist too --> LR Baggs DI which has more features than many bass amps - a notch filter sweepable mids, phase inversion, gain and shelving EQ.... all in a stompbox sized package. I highly recommend it for doubling - you can match levels with the EB and set yr EQ beautifully.

Red Planet · #8 07-30-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by vin*tone

Thunderous lows can be a bad thing if you can't tame boomy feedback on a gig. Given that you don't have a parametric pre I'd go with the Shuttle - the semi para EQ will be handy. The Streamliner is designed to give fatness with minimal fuss - meaning not much of an EQ toolkit.

I use a Realist too --> LR Baggs DI which has more features than many bass amps - a notch filter sweepable mids, phase inversion, gain and shelving EQ.... all in a stompbox sized package. I highly recommend it for doubling - you can match levels with the EB and set yr EQ beautifully.

I see your point but I'm using the Fdeck. That one little knob is all one needs to control low end issues on a stage. That is the beauty of the Fdeck. It matches impedances, gives the HPF feature, and can reverse the phase. The HPF makes all that other stuff useless.

So there is no other reason to choose one over the other?

esoxhntr · #9 07-30-2011, 10:12 AM

Is there any reason not to take both and give each one a set?

Red Planet · #10 07-30-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by esoxhntr

Is there any reason not to take both and give each one a set?

I suppose I could. I forgot to mention how lazy I am.

lo-freq · #11 07-30-2011, 12:21 PM

Less EQ'ing is usually better -- I would think the S9 wouldd work better run flat with an upright than the Streamliner.

Quick & clean IMO works best with an acoustic bass.

LarryR · #12 08-19-2011, 02:54 PM

I'll chime in late.
I'm getting a Streamliner 900. It's on the way.
My aim is to use it for doubling. I should add, I also have Fdeck's pre.
But, I'll put my Phil Jones Bass D-200 amp in front of it for pure acoustic upright gigs (jazz, bluegrass, etc.). Currently I use an Ashdown ABM500 for everything loud, and the PJB for upright. Problem is the PJB is only 150w @ 4ohms. I use the orig Berg HT/EX cabs. I'm hoping the S900 + PJB will do it all for me. Hybrid/Convertible amplification for all my needs, for under 10lbs. Time will tell....

hensonbass · #13 08-19-2011, 03:29 PM

I have not found the preamp of the Streamliner 900 to be useful with my upright basses. Too much bottom end and not enough mid-frequency control. What I do is run my pickups into a Headway preamp or an Empress Para EQ into the effect loop. I also have a Lehle parallel switcher that allows me to switch in the signal in and out if I'm also using the normal input for my bass guitar so I don't have to unplug cables when I go between instruments. Obviously the shuttle amps have more eq options and transparent input, but I am a sucker for that Streamliner preamp for bass guitar. It just makes the slabs sound fat. And too fat for an upright IMO (unless you have an old style Fishman BP-100 pickup that needs all that bottom end).

Red Planet · #14 08-19-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hensonbass

I have not found the preamp of the Streamliner 900 to be useful with my upright basses. Too much bottom end and not enough mid-frequency control. What I do is run my pickups into a Headway preamp or an Empress Para EQ into the effect loop. I also have a Lehle parallel switcher that allows me to switch in the signal in and out if I'm also using the normal input for my bass guitar so I don't have to unplug cables when I go between instruments. Obviously the shuttle amps have more eq options and transparent input, but I am a sucker for that Streamliner preamp for bass guitar. It just makes the slabs sound fat. And too fat for an upright IMO (unless you have an old style Fishman BP-100 pickup that needs all that bottom end).

Again that's what the Fdeck is for.
Small and easy peazy pie.

I ended up using the Streamliner with Zero Issues. If I wanted Boom (Mean Town Blues) I dialed the HPF down and if I want Middy Cut Cry (I'd Rather Drink Muddy Water) I dialed it up. For SOS Blues I kept it about midway.

I may try the Shuttle 9.0 next week just for giggles. I like the 9.0 fo sho too.