STV replacement!

Jeff Scott · #1 03-18-2010, 05:17 PM

Finally, we have a worthy replacement for the venerable SVT amp:

http://www.bugera-amps.com/EN/products/BVV3000.aspx

What will they ~~steal~~ think of next?

derridiandrift · #2 03-18-2010, 05:22 PM

Wow. That's a pretty blatant copy. I've never heard of this company. What's the story here?

Similarly, I've often wondered how all the "boutique" amp builders are able to get away with copying old fender amps without being sued by Fender.

silky smoove · #3 03-18-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by derridiandrift

Wow. That's a pretty blatant copy. I've never heard of this company. What's the story here?

Yes you have. It's Behringer.

rodl2005 · #4 03-18-2010, 05:31 PM

Buggerer amps have been the 'VALVE/tube' side of Behringer for a while now. Have heard mixed reports re their tube guitar amps......
I s'pose this COULD be a viable alternative for those unable to even consider the real thing...due to $$$$, depends on the SRP of the BVV3 :-/ I wouldn't go near it at least until I'd heard a lotta good reports re it's reliability etc...... even then, I think I'd opt for the 2nd hand real thing. YMMV

Jeff Scott · #5 03-18-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rodl2005

I s'pose this COULD be a viable alternative for those unable to even consider the real thing...due to $$$$, depends on the SRP of the BVV3 :-/

I first saw this in the current issue of Bass Player magazine in their New Gear section, with a price of $10299!

Beefbass · #6 03-18-2010, 06:54 PM

The ad said it uses two pairs of 6550's, which are also known as KT88's. Problem is, I thought KT88's and 6550's were different tubes, am I wrong?

Jeff Scott · #7 03-18-2010, 06:56 PM

The BP description says 6 6550s.

TheLarch · #8 03-18-2010, 07:13 PM

From the Bugera BVV page:

"Or, you can spend a whole lot more and get an amp from that company whose name rhymes with “Damp Leg.”

Very classy.

JimmyM · #9 03-18-2010, 09:06 PM

i will never figure out how uli behringer sleeps at night. true, he's not killing people, but the blatant thievery makes me absolutely sick.

ryanrex · #10 03-18-2010, 09:11 PM

There's a market for that stuff. The store i work out Behringer is our number one moving sku on everything. The millions of dollars help Uli sleep. Most people buy on price point and Behringer makes decent stuff really cheap. We don't have the SVT Copy but the guitar stuff they have sounds good. and i haven't had a customer have any issues with the Bugera line yet.

JimmyM · #11 03-19-2010, 02:22 AM

hey, everybody steals in creative fields like amp design. but it's so blatantly a lookalike that it's just wrong.

whoatherechunk · #12 03-19-2010, 02:23 AM

gross.

T-Bird · #13 03-20-2010, 04:36 AM

Hi.

Old news, is the head really on the market?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beefbass

The ad said it uses two pairs of 6550's, which are also known as KT88's. Problem is, I thought KT88's and 6550's were different tubes, am I wrong?

Back in the day they were different tubes, but AFAIK at least the Russian and Chinese CP tubes which bear the designation KT88 or 6550, are the same internals in a different package.

Regards
Sam

sparrow · #14 03-20-2010, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rodl2005

I s'pose this COULD be a viable alternative for those unable to even consider the real thing...due to $$$$

i've seen someone(on a dutch bassforum) mentioning a price around 700 euro's.

I wonder how it sounds, looks like a nice alternative for shows at places where you don't want to take your precious SVT to. Or not so safe rehearsel spaces..

René_Julien · #15 03-20-2010, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

hey, everybody steals in creative fields like amp design. but it's so blatantly a lookalike that it's just wrong.

That's what Behringer does, that's what Behringer must.

If Behringer comes up with a product that is original on the market, creative and innovative, something that makes you go "hey that's fresh"... would anyone buy it?
No.

You buy Behringer because you want a blatant copy of something you can't afford or rarely find.

Maybe this is a gateway to established amp companies.
Someone who buys this Behringer/Bugera SVT copy as his/her first all-tube, and likes it... and eventually have it breaking down, might consider saving up for the real thing.

I agree, it's not that ethical what Behringer is doing.
But I'm surprised that people outrage about this as if it is new practice... it's old news, Behringer is copying products for a long time.

JGR · #16 03-20-2010, 08:33 AM

Made in China, yippie!

Where is the Ashdown BTA400?

Jeff Scott · #17 03-20-2010, 08:55 AM

My take on this is once Ampeg production went to China it suddenly became "legal" to make clones of Ampeg products. I guess the Chinese concept is: "It is legal to make copies of Chinese made products".

The Bugera brand came in to existence to create these "legal" copies of Ampeg amps.

KingCrimson · #18 03-20-2010, 09:22 AM

wow... Over here in Canada the price is 1029$

I could get a Traynor for less then that or fork over just a bit more and get a real SVT

**JHorstmann** · #19 03-20-2010, 10:33 AM

Eerily similar. However the Bugera doesn't have a polarity switch. You may think I'm crazy for saying that but it IS a big deal hehe.

MikeM · #20 09-12-2010, 07:05 PM

why would you need a polarity switch ?