Suggest a 112 cab for my new GK rb400III

[j_nition]

Looking at either a :

GK Neo 112 (300 watts at 8 ohms)
or
Avatar LF Neo Deltalite loaded 112 (250 watts at 4 or 8 ohms)


I'm leaning toward ordering the Avatar in 4 ohm since I only plan on running a single cab and the rb400 puts out 260 watts at 4 ohm and only 160 at 8 ohms...

What do you guys think?

[acleex38]

I take it that you'd have to get the Avatar pre-made as a 4ohm cab, yes?

The Hartke HyDrive 1x12 has a switch to flip it from 8 to 4 ohm. Yeah - I know it isn't on your list, but as seems to be the (poor form) norm on this kind of thread, I'm pitching in my own suggestion. :-)

[kosmicwizard]

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[Bmorefoozler]

Onloy get the 4 if you are absoluteloy sure you will be using 1 cab. If this is your "small rig" and you have a bigger one, then that could make sense. The difference in absolute volume will be small, but addinga second cab will make a HUGE difference.

[acleex38]

That's why I suggested the Hartke - the switchable ohm rating would allow the best of both worlds. I can recommend it on the tone - I can't say I've compared it to the either two (my only experience with the Avatar was playing briefly with someone else's, over 3 years ago.)

[tombowlus]

Originally Posted by Bmorefoozler

Onloy get the 4 if you are absoluteloy sure you will be using 1 cab. If this is your "small rig" and you have a bigger one, then that could make sense. The difference in absolute volume will be small, but addinga second cab will make a HUGE difference.

Good point. And the Neo112-II is a tremendously good box, especially for the money. I'd probably favor the GK, though I doubt you'd be unhappy with Avatar.

[T. Alan Smith]

Originally Posted by j_nition

Looking at either a :

GK Neo 112 (300 watts at 8 ohms)
or
Avatar LF Neo Deltalite loaded 112 (250 watts at 4 or 8 ohms)


I'm leaning toward ordering the Avatar in 4 ohm since I only plan on running a single cab and the rb400 puts out 260 watts at 4 ohm and only 160 at 8 ohms...

What do you guys think?

I think your playing situation will have as much to do with what cab will work as much as anything. I think you should share that w/us. A 1x12 won't be much good if your playing between a less than mature/tasteful drummer & guitard, for example. IME, 1x12"s are great for practice, rehearsal & accompanying acoustic players; small scale jobs such as cafes and churches, for example.

[jeff7bass]

I'd get a 212 with that head or 2 twelves at 8 ohms each.

[RickenBoogie]

Wattage alone does not equal volume, speakers do. One 12" spkr isn't much, so an 8 ohm will most likely handle what wattage it gets better than a 4 ohm with more wattage. The volume difference will be zero, since it's limited by the single 12 either way. +1 to considering 2 12's.

[DavePlaysBass]

The GK Neos have some other options that are schelpable. I have a GK Neo115-iii and find it to be the best one cab solution relative to my Aguilar GS112 and Avatar B210 neo. I think it weights about 40 lbs. And then there is the GK Neo212. It weights about 50 lbs and gets a lot of good reviews.

The Neo115 is louder than the Aguilar GS112. And has descent definition. It does the B and low E very well with my GK MB500.

[j_nition]

Originally Posted by T. Alan Smith

I think your playing situation will have as much to do with what cab will work as much as anything. I think you should share that w/us. A 1x12 won't be much good if your playing between a less than mature/tasteful drummer & guitard, for example. IME, 1x12"s are great for practice, rehearsal & accompanying acoustic players; small scale jobs such as cafes and churches, for example.

I supose sharing that info would be helpfull... I play on the worship team at church about twice a month. Right now I'm getting by just fine volumewise on the 112 Roland combo but what I'm really after is just better tone.

sounds like saving for a 212 could be an option... would it be a huge deal if the 212 ended up being somewhat underpowered by the 400rb?

[RickenBoogie]

no such thing as underpowered.

[impactwrench]

I blew my SB112 at band practice with a 400RB-III, and it was 8 ohms. I guess it doesnt matter the wattage you put into it so much as how far the cone moves (xmax), but im pretty sure if you run one 12 at 4 ohms it will be easier to blow than at 8 ohms with your amp. The 400RB-III puts out 240 watts I believe. Like the other guys said, you wont get that much more volume running at 240 watts (4 ohms) instead of 180 watts (8 ohms) unless you add more speakers.

[eastcoasteddie]

Originally Posted by RickenBoogie

Wattage alone does not equal volume, speakers do. One 12" spkr isn't much, so an 8 ohm will most likely handle what wattage it gets better than a 4 ohm with more wattage. The volume difference will be zero, since it's limited by the single 12 either way. +1 to considering 2 12's.

+2

I've been using my BX500 with a 1x12...sounded good.
I recently got an older Avatar cube 1x12 to add, two 12's sound amazing.



EDIT:

I also have to say that playing quietly, with 2 cabs and 500watts output at 4 ohms....is almost impossible. I have my volume set at 0.25, and it's still loud and rumbles the house. I have to turn up my compression on the amp to try and tame it...But that is probably because of the BX500's nuances.

[j_nition]

more great info guys...thanks!