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08-15-2010, 11:52 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington Heights, IL | | | SVT All-Tube Growl Gone?
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Prior to 2007, I noticed most SVT CL's had a great growly tone at nearly any gain/master volume setting. If you let the head warm up for like 10 minutes, the unit growled like nobody's business and was really loud! Since 2007 (based on what I remembered), I noticed all of the SVT CL's do not create that tube growl like they used to. I am wondering why that is and if anyone else noticed it?
The SVT CL (in general) currently sounds really clean and does not growl one bit. It sounds like a compressed-warm tube amp. It also seems to run out of headroom really fast too. Every time I play one, I swear I reach the end of the clean headroom with the tubes and the head just distorts horribly - no tube growl at all. Just wondering if I missed something here. | 
08-16-2010, 12:07 AM
| | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | i've played a handful of loud cl's and hadn't really noticed anything out of the ordinary. but i'm primarily a clean sound guy too, so maybe i wasn't listening for that. odd.
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08-16-2010, 12:07 AM
|  | www.HeavyMetalOpera.com Unofficialy endorsing EBMM, Avatar Speakers | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle (ish), WA | | | Mine growls just fine. I don't know the exact year on it... somewhere around a 2007 though. | 
08-16-2010, 06:15 AM
| | | | Haven't noticed that the heads have changed that much but since selling the 8x10 believe that the same amp growls less with a different cabinet
Nearly every band in my area has gone to newer, smaller cabinets so it is rare to use or hear one in a club setting | 
08-16-2010, 06:26 AM
|  | Lone Wolf and Renagade Miner | | | | | Haven't noticed anything. Mine growls like a lion or I can get it super clean depending on my gain setting.
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08-16-2010, 06:31 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington Heights, IL | | | I should add that every SVT CL I have tried at stores was always paired with the 810e. Several bassists I talked to all said the current SVT CL's are just too clean sounding. I am trying to figure out if it's the tubes or something in the circuitry. | 
08-16-2010, 06:31 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa | | | Ampeg sold all their growl to tech-21 to put into their VT bass pedals... | 
08-20-2010, 11:46 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: berkeley, ca | | hm, i noticed this, too, playing through svt's at guitar center. glad that there is some circumstantial evidence that i'm not merely incompetent.  | 
08-20-2010, 07:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis | | | That would also be about the time period in which the manufacturing started using all-asian parts.... Some of the Vietnam heads still used transformers made over here, until the stock ran out.
Possibly co-incidence... maybe not.
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08-20-2010, 08:31 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | interesting. now i have something else to nitpick on gigs.
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08-20-2010, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by alembicguy Haven't noticed anything. Mine growls like a lion or I can get it super clean depending on my gain setting. | HAHA!!!
I was going to use that EXACT analogy to explain my new Heritage CL.....
The SOB actually GRUNTS....and then purrs....
Damn I love tube goodness......
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08-20-2010, 08:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sioux Falls, SD | | | I think you guys are funny. My stuff when played at low burner just plays along like a well behaved little blonde girl coming home from church on easter sunday with apink ribbon in her hair.
When you put the spurs to it, the cabs whomp like it's nobody's business. I have to admit it isn't full of the nasty distortion like my Fender Bassman had when you went past "4". I aways thought that sounded poopie.
Give me the sound like one more nudge up on the throttle and the cones will rip all the way around.... That's what bass should sound like.
CLEANISH but obviously kicking some booty...
Get you acts together. BWAHAHAHHAAHAHA.
BOB
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08-20-2010, 11:32 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington Heights, IL | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerrold Tiers That would also be about the time period in which the manufacturing started using all-asian parts.... Some of the Vietnam heads still used transformers made over here, until the stock ran out.
Possibly co-incidence... maybe not. | That has to be part of the reason. Because I can find at least two SVT's in the Chicago Guitar Center/Samash locations that refuse to growl one bit. They just stay really clean all the way and when you try to push it more, the tube amp distorts horribly and sounds like it is clipping badly.
Nice to hear the Heritage series SVT growls a lot. I have yet to try one. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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