SVT CL with 8x10 - Talk me out of it

[DrowningBrian]

i would get a used 70's svt head and 8x10 cab. you could get those together for about $2000, they keep there value. that will be the last amp/cab you will ever buy. if you buy new you will pay about a grand more. i think the old svt's sound better than the svt-cl.

[kmon]

Originally Posted by Honkycat

If you are getting a deal on it..you should'nt have too difficult a time selling it if you decide you don't want it.... (however,..if you decide to keep the head and sell the cab,it's a different story,there are countless 8x10's on Craigslist).

I've noticed that...a ridiculous # of 8x10s out there...far fewer heads though

[will33]

They can be a little bit cumbersome to haul around if you are old or weak, but you'll forget all about that as you strike the first note.




That's about all I got..........

[redhed]

Originally Posted by will33

They can be a little bit cumbersome to haul around if you are old or weak, but you'll forget all about that as you strike the first note.




That's about all I got..........

So true! But I'll move mine anytime!

[ThisBass]

Originally Posted by DrowningBrian

i would get a used 70's svt head and 8x10 cab. you could get those together for about $2000, they keep there value. that will be the last amp/cab you will ever buy. if you buy new you will pay about a grand more. i think the old svt's sound better than the svt-cl.

different

[two fingers]

Originally Posted by Shane Carter

No, it's not "either or," you need both rigs.

Bingo!

[sapienerabass]

Originally Posted by redhed

So true! But I'll move mine anytime!

Like!!

Is the shelf of cleaning products useful to cleanup loosened bowels?

I've got an SVT2 Pro, Ampeg 810e and Hartke 810XL. I've only run the 16x10 behemoth once....now one cab lives in the rehearsal space and the Ampeg does the gigs.

[StuartV]

Originally Posted by RedMoses

Im a car guy and theres a lot of nostalgia when it comes to muscle cars, and i love them and all but when you look at todays muscle cars, they are better in every way. Aside from the nostalgia factor, why run the vintage gear? Todays gear sounds just as good and weighs half as much...

Big difference. Today's gear does not sound "better in every way". In fact, I don't think I've ever heard anybody say that any of today's gear sounds BETTER than the old stuff. Some will say "as good". But, even then, that is mostly only used to describe the SVT-VR.

To the OP: You said you want to be talked out of it, so here's my best effort. If it's an SVT CL and a modern-ish Ampeg 810, then a good deal for both, together, would be around $1200. I see CLs on Guitar Center Used Gear frequently for $900 and not hard to find them on there for $800, if you have just a little bit of patience. 810s frequently go on CL for $500 or less. So, a "GOOD" deal for both together would be $1200 to maybe $1300. If you're getting a CL in good shape with a Made in USA 810, for that price range, go for it. If it's a particle board 810 or made overseas, and/or any more money than that, then you can probably have a little patience and get an actual good deal if you wait.

I lug my big tube heads (including an early 70s SVT) and my Berg 610 back and forth just for weekly jams and stuff. Sometimes it seems like a little bit of a PITA. But, every time I light it up and hear it in the mix, it makes it worth it.

[Bassmec]

Fraid you are going to have to get the SVT rig.
I had one for years kept my speaker cable in good order and never had a problem with it at all, Don't believe all the stories on this board about tubes being unreliable and if it comes with a set of old tubes in it don't go out and re tube it with new production, just make sure the old tubes are biased properly.
Most of the stories of tube failure you read on this board are not the tubes that where in the amp when they bought it.
It usually all goes pear shaped when they give it a birthday and then
find out some new production 6550 tubes don't like the plate volts old SVT's have.
Never take a risk with plugging it into cabs that you are not absolutely certain are 4 ohms.
And don't be tempted to use smaller cabs that you can accidentally blow with the power of it. remember your output tubes and output transformer won't thank you for running into infinity ohms at all.
PS check all the speakers in the eight by ten with a battery test across the speaker cable jack when you get it and then checking just in case at intervals to make sure they are all still working.
Enjoy! they are not really that hard to move if you are reasonably fit. its just this board seems to be full of people that are suffering serious health problems.

[Alexander]

The SVT is highly overrated. Sound is average at best and you're lugging a couple hundred pounds of gear for no reason. And that weight doubles at 2am loud-out. The new featherweight stuff blows it away - I don't care what anyone else says. Tubes are high maintenance at a higher cost - anyone who says otherwise is crazy. SVTs are dinosaurs, if you ask me.

Oh, who the **** am I kidding? I at least tried to talk you out of it, anyways... ;-)

[lefty]

I own a 74 SVT head and cab. I can never get rid of it. I own smaller modern gear. Markbass bergies bagend. And at least once a year i ll go out in the garage and fire up the old SVT and thank God that that thing was invented. Unbelievable tone! Anytime I play outdoors i youse it to fill the space. and buy the way... i paid 500 bucks for head and cab in 85.

[soulman969]

Originally Posted by kmon

If I was playing out all the time I wouldn't even think about it for that reason. But I'd only have to move it now and then and the bandmates can grab a handle.

Maybe I can sell it to the wife as a fitness machine...like a weight set, but so much cooler

Every bassist should have one to play through at least once in his lifetime and you may never get a better deal on one than you will now. It's the age of "lightweight" and that an SVT isn't.

[JimmyM]

I would retire before I sold my SVT and 810. That said, I used a Micro VR tonight on my gig. I fall in the "big rig/small rig" camp, too. Love having the small rig for onstage monitoring, but sometimes you just have to make a statement.

[guy n. cognito]

Here's another "no" vote. SVTs and 810s are not easy to sell in today's market. Unless you just can't live without that specific tone, I'd pass. If you want to have that tonal option, stick a VT Bass on your pedal board.

[f64]

Do it and don't look back. You will need both down the road.

[Jawbone]

Originally Posted by Bassmec

Fraid you are going to have to get the SVT rig.
I had one for years kept my speaker cable in good order and never had a problem with it at all, Don't believe all the stories on this board about tubes being unreliable and if it comes with a set of old tubes in it don't go out and re tube it with new production, just make sure the old tubes are biased properly.
Most of the stories of tube failure you read on this board are not the tubes that where in the amp when they bought it.
It usually all goes pear shaped when they give it a birthday and then
find out some new production 6550 tubes don't like the plate volts old SVT's have.
Never take a risk with plugging it into cabs that you are not absolutely certain are 4 ohms.
And don't be tempted to use smaller cabs that you can accidentally blow with the power of it. remember your output tubes and output transformer won't thank you for running into infinity ohms at all.
PS check all the speakers in the eight by ten with a battery test across the speaker cable jack when you get it and then checking just in case at intervals to make sure they are all still working.
Enjoy! they are not really that hard to move if you are reasonably fit. its just this board seems to be full of people that are suffering serious health problems.

Do exactly what he said.

[One Drop]

Originally Posted by Jawbone

Do exactly what he said.

Yes.

[RickenTalker]

You should be able to try a svt CL at your loca GC. Honestly, for ab all tube head I find the CL's tone to be a bit on the stale side. Get a ampeg v4 or an old 70s svt if you really want a good ampeg all tube sound. I own a v4 and it's plenty loud for my needs. They sound great through 810s also. Mesa 400+ is awsome too if you want lots of clean volume.

[grenadilla]

Go ahead and get it, I miss my SVT cabinets. I wish some other companies would make sealed 810 cabinets. Do you know of any?

[StereoPlayer]

Originally Posted by Alexander

The SVT is highly overrated. Sound is average at best and you're lugging a couple hundred pounds of gear for no reason. And that weight doubles at 2am loud-out. The new featherweight stuff blows it away - I don't care what anyone else says. Tubes are high maintenance at a higher cost - anyone who says otherwise is crazy. SVTs are dinosaurs, if you ask me.

Oh, who the **** am I kidding? I at least tried to talk you out of it, anyways... ;-)

Agreed. I'm sure some people like them.

I, personally, think they are too raw sounding, raw power, heavy
Sounding.

I love my MarkBass and GK amps with my MarkBass speakers. Sweet.

IMO