SVT Killer

T. Alan Smith · #1 03-29-2010, 09:56 AM

This has been done before, but there's new stuff on the market as well. Those of you who have used SVT rigs(ALL TUBE head & sealed 8x10" cab, specifically)- what gets "that sound" for you these days? Maybe you have a herniated disk or small car. Can a Sans Amp thru a 1001RB into a Berg NV610 match or outperform the original? Just wondering what your all doing to make it happen.

BZadlo · #2 03-29-2010, 10:02 AM

The VT Bass has the sound down really well but, it doesn't quite have the same "feel" as a real SVT though.
I don't think that your setup would necessarily outperform the original but it could probably get close enough and be more versatile.

Frankie Fender · #3 03-29-2010, 10:05 AM

SVT killer is an Aggie DB750 through an NV610 and is superior IMHO. At about 1/2 the weight. Still a lot to schlepp though.

T. Alan Smith · #4 03-29-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BZadlo

The VT Bass has the sound down really well but, it doesn't quite have the same "feel" as a real SVT though.
I don't think that your setup would necessarily outperform the original but it could probably get close enough and be more versatile.

Thanks. I don't own that stuff...just used it as an example. You hit the nail on the "feel" aspect. That's really what I'm interested in. I agree the other would be more versatile, but I've already got versatile.

Surly · #5 03-29-2010, 10:18 AM

SVT --> NV610 instead of the 810. Sorry, nothing can replace the amp itself, but the 610 saves bulk and it fits in the back of my car.

Other than that, you could probably get away with the VT pedal if you were going into a PA. In most cases the pedal gets you 95-98% there.

T. Alan Smith · #6 03-29-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie Fender

SVT killer is an Aggie DB750 through an NV610 and is superior IMHO. At about 1/2 the weight. Still a lot to schlepp though.

Yeah, but that's a pretty big weight savings right there...especially if it's giving you the same kind of inspiration you get from playing thru a real SVT rig. ....and it seems more "real" than relying on modeling pedal to only get you in the ballpark. Thanks.

fitz420 · #7 03-29-2010, 10:18 AM

+1 for the NV610. i used a VT through my LMII through an NV610 for a while. it does a good job of approximating the SVT sound...doesn't kill it though. the best i've heard is the SVT-VR through an NV610

Rickett Customs · #8 03-29-2010, 10:19 AM

No herniated disk, but I do have a small car. Still get my 810, SVT-VR, 2 basses and backpack with all the accessories into my 2004 Volkswagen GTI

T. Alan Smith · #9 03-29-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Surly

SVT --> NV610 instead of the 810. Sorry, nothing can replace the amp itself, but the 610 saves bulk and it fits in the back of my car.

Good stuff, thanks. Two votes for the NV610 already.

T. Alan Smith · #10 03-29-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rickett Customs

No herniated disk, but I do have a small car. Still get my 810, SVT-VR, 2 basses and backpack with all the accessories into my 2004 Volkswagen GTI

GTI owner here as well. Easy load in/out? I wouldn't want to beat the hell out of my '09.

T. Alan Smith · #11 03-29-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by fitz420

+1 for the NV610. i used a VT through my LMII through an NV610 for a while. it does a good job of approximating the SVT sound...doesn't kill it though. the best i've heard is the SVT-VR through an NV610

Still using the NV?

rdwoody1 · #12 03-29-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rickett Customs

No herniated disk, but I do have a small car. Still get my 810, SVT-VR, 2 basses and backpack with all the accessories into my 2004 Volkswagen GTI

Holy crap! That's impressive! I struggle to get my 8x10, SVT-II Pro, backpack, and one bass in my Chevy Trailblazer with the seats folded down.

EricF · #13 03-29-2010, 10:29 AM

For me, the DB750 gives me everything I loveed about my SVT-CL, but in a (moderately) lighter package. Paired with a DB115 cab, it's a perfect rig for me.

guroove · #14 03-29-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by T. Alan Smith

Thanks. I don't own that stuff...just used it as an example. You hit the nail on the "feel" aspect. That's really what I'm interested in. I agree the other would be more versatile, but I've already got versatile.

IMO, the only way to get that rubbery SVT punch is with a tube power amp. The crunch part is easy to get with solid state pedals and preamps, but the compressed monster tube punch is all from the power tubes.

Octoplus · #15 03-29-2010, 10:36 AM

I used to play in a band with a couple of the Lakland guys up in their shop at Lakin General where, quite conveniently, I never had to bring my own equipment (bass or amp). My fave amp up there was the original SVT + 8x10 setup. The SVT sound is unmistakable, but for me there was also the tactical impression that such a tall cabinet provided. Standing about 6-8 feet in front of the cab, the sound literally hit me in the chest, instantly giving me the warm fuzzies. I was later able to approximate the tactile sensation on my own equipment by raising my Mesa 4x10 about 3 feet off the ground. I used an old SWR Interstellar Overdrive + 800w SS power amp to provide the girth and grind of the SVT. This combo came pretty close to the SVT experience for me.

Rickett Customs · #16 03-29-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rdwoody1

Holy crap! That's impressive! I struggle to get my 8x10, SVT-II Pro, backpack, and one bass in my Chevy Trailblazer with the seats folded down.

The GTI, is the the same size/style as the "Golf", with the back seats folded down, it fits in there..... it's sort of tight, but it fits.............."That's what she said"

autofile · #17 03-29-2010, 10:45 AM

You might also consider trying a "reasonable" weight all tube amp, like the Morgan MP200.
Only 42 lbs, and gives a REAL all tube feel, tone and sound.

coreyfyfe · #18 03-29-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rdwoody1

Holy crap! That's impressive! I struggle to get my 8x10, SVT-II Pro, backpack, and one bass in my Chevy Trailblazer with the seats folded down.

I could get my 8x10, V4 (in a road case), PT-pro, two basses, and my wife into my chevy aveo. That trailblazer must be small.....

T. Alan Smith · #19 03-29-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by autofile

You might also consider trying a "reasonable" weight all tube amp, like the Morgan MP200.
Only 42 lbs, and gives a REAL all tube feel, tone and sound.

THIS is interesting...

autofile · #20 03-29-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by T. Alan Smith

THIS is interesting...

It aint cheap, but it is the REAL thing, and in this case you get what you pay for!
Plus Mike Morgan is a pleasure to work with