Take the preamp from a Guitar amp and use it for bass?
I'm on the cheapo way because I have to take the bass playing extra to the vocals in my band (out bass player is leaving due to time issues and we don't seem to find a good replacement for him).
I have an okay bass (squier jazz bass w/ fender pickups, works) but I lack an amp. A good bass amp is 300++€ (I'm from germany) so I thought of getting a used hybrid guitar amp like the orange micro terror or a used marshall valvestate 40 watter and add a pre amp out and use a 300 watt PA amp I have lying around (transistor) with it. Will it work or will a guitar preamp not suit bass frequencies?
I play punk/speedrock (like zeke, just a little bit slower) so distortion is no problem ;-)
What's your budget anyhow?
It will work, but the result is unpredictable (at least, for me). If you have 100 euros to spend, go eBay! Lot of good little bass heads there!! Older peaveys, Laneys, old trace elliots. All with a 100-300 watt amp inside and a DI output for you to plug into the PA.
You may also have a look at Thomanns housebrand harleybenton. They make some decent little combos and heads. I am eyeing a HB combo myself for at home. 90 bucks, line and DI out
Or get a pedal preamp, like Aguilar Tone Hammer, Tech 21 VT Bass, Sansamp, etc. you just need something to give you some tone shaping and boost the signal to the power amp.
yeah as I said I'm on a tight budged... moving around in the range of 50-150 euros... I tried to get my hands on the old amps but in ger they all go for 200+ euros... if I could spend 300 euros I'd just get a kustom de300 or something...
A buddy of mine will lend me his old warwick mosfet 3.2 with a 4x10 box but that's a transistor amp... no distortion :-/ I need some tube overdrive
those pedal pre amps you listed are all 200+ :-/ not in my budget at the moment
I got a harley benton GA5 guitar tube amp standing around... could I add a line out to that little fella and use it as a bass pre amp? or should I just get a cheap blues overdrive and save my money til I can afford a hartke 3500 or an orange bass terror 500?
why do you need built in distortion? why not get a fuzz pedal like a big muff or a rat? then just use your friends Warwick?
go cheap and you go double
Save up a little money and let your ears decide in the shop. The Hartke 3500 is something I never understood - I never got any decent sound of it (but that's personal). I would go for the Hartke LH500. The Orange is another dirty little thing to go for - much love for that head around here.
If you look for one certain distorted sound, then you might want to look for that in the head, itself. An overdrive is not the same as distortion btw.
Also, you might want to look some pre-amps like the Sansamp or MXR torch. Beasty little things
If I were you I would look for a used SansAmp BassDriver. I think you could probably find one used for $100 or less. It is a tube amp simulator. Has a drive knob for distortion but really it's like overdrive. You'll have to use a pedal if you want that heavy beefy distortion. I've used an old DOD Hard Rock Distortion that sounds real beefy on bass with the SansAmp.
I believe you said you have a PA so just plug the pedals into that. You're good. You'll really have to be patient with your searching before you find the right prices. Good luck!
Just checked ebay. The SansAmp is a little more expensive used than I thought. Sorry
okay thank you. I will look for a bass overdrive/preamp used til I find one cheap... and I will ask my guitarplayer buddys if they have some guitar blues overdrive pedals lying around that I can try :-)
Edit: I just saw that those boss obd-3 are cheap, like 50 bucks. are those okay for my uses?
I forgot to mention: My bass is a squier Jazz modded to P/J with Fender MIM split coil and steels and I play with a pick
If You want some speaker/tube power amp interaction thrown in, you can make a nice resistor divider to tap into the output of the amp or even a "DI" from a (IIRC) 230V/2*15V small transformer.
Drives a power amp nicely.
thsi seems to exceed my abilities or I just don't understand what you're telling me... You mean splitting the signal from the tube amp and going into the power amp with one part of the signal and into the box with the other part?
The GA5 has 5 watts, I don't think it will be of any use directly on a bass speaker
probably would work with your GA-5.
I would look for a used rack mount bass pre amp, like an Ashley, Peavey, whatever. that stuff goes for dirt these days.
then borrow or buy a pedal for dirt. some of the old preamps like BBE or Peavey etc. had built in overdrive.
Connect it to your PA power amp. Done.
(This is essentially the Behringer version of a SansAmp Bass Driver)
I'll have a look at that one! Thank you guys!
so I tried the warwick profet Amp and it's okay with me, I'll get myself a boss obd-3 and try what it does to the warwicks sound
boss odb-3 is on the way and I wil lbuy a hartke 3500 hybrid for cheap next month from a buddy who moves over to a sansamp with a power amp... everythings gonna be alright :-D
If you're disappointed with the ODB when you get it, turn the treble down. It can be a mean pedal but ya gotta set the treble lower on that one
got the odb and the hartke now... gotta do some minor adjustments and get myself a P-Bass but the sound improved by 500% coming from that ****ed up warwick :-D
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