TC Electronic BG250 Club

drpepper · #1 07-22-2012, 03:45 PM

There are two decent threads started, but they seem to be more in the direction of product announcements and first reports. With the future development of Toneprints and software revisions, a single thread repository to help keep owners up to date and the word spread on company news and available downloads.

Some specific commentary on Toneprints as they come out would also be nice.

drpepper · #2 07-22-2012, 03:50 PM

I guess a first bit of news/info would be that if you've just received your BG250, there's already a software revision. It's necessary to use the SpectraComp and BassDrive Toneprints and some of the newer Toneprints in the other categories.

I don't believe the update is loaded on the all of the units in stock, so getting it installed would be a first move.

http://www.tcelectronic.com/bg250-software.asp

DaveTomasi · #3 07-23-2012, 02:56 AM

Count me in. Great sounding combo and LOUD too. Very light weight for this old guy with a neck fusion. Have not really explored the Toneprint stuff, but I'm not much into effects. I did like the chorus, but I need to find a gig where I can use it.

stepswork4me · #4 07-23-2012, 07:08 AM

I'll have mine later today. I'm just too damn excited.

drpepper · #5 07-23-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveTomasi

Count me in. Great sounding combo and LOUD too. Very light weight for this old guy with a neck fusion. Have not really explored the Toneprint stuff, but I'm not much into effects. I did like the chorus, but I need to find a gig where I can use it.

I don't know that I'll find a practical use for the effects in the Toneprint lineup either, Dave. I've just never used any effects. But even if you're not an effects guy, make sure to download the update and Toneprints that include SpectraComp and BassDrive. Most of those are more properly tone tools than they are effects.

drpepper · #6 07-23-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by stepswork4me

I'll have mine later today. I'm just too damn excited.

Cool. NAD!

stepswork4me · #7 07-23-2012, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by drpepper

Cool. NAD!

Yes Sir!!! And a NBD coming within a few months!!! Complete custom one off to my specs!!!

Darknut · #8 07-23-2012, 11:23 AM

Here is mine ... Killer little Amp .... had to loose the big red decal though

drpepper · #9 07-23-2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darknut

Here is mine ... Killer little Amp .... had to loose the big red decal though

From the picture, I assume everything went fine, but removing the BG250 badge went without any fuss or muss?

tombowlus · #10 07-23-2012, 02:10 PM

TC gave me a BH250 (head only) to take for a review at Summer NAMM. So far, I am quite impressed. The Toneprint option(s) are incredible, in my book. I like the one overdrive option pretty well (forget the name), but more Toneprints become available every day, it seems.

And, it's a great sounding head in its own right!

drpepper · #11 07-23-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tombowlus

TC gave me a BH250 (head only) to take for a review at Summer NAMM. So far, I am quite impressed. The Toneprint option(s) are incredible, in my book. I like the one overdrive option pretty well (forget the name), but more Toneprints become available every day, it seems.

And, it's a great sounding head in its own right!

Good to hear. The review should be interesting.

My interest in the BG250 was in the overall package, the weight being a large part, so even if the BH250 had been available, I don't think it would have been the move for me.

That said, I'd be very curious to know how a different speaker would sound.

I wanted to do some comparison of my own, and being limited to what I have, I figured the best speaker would be the HT112 (so, single speaker and tweeter vs single speaker and tweeter). I went back and forth between the BG250 and SVT7PRO/HT112 and then RH750/HT112.

I have been so impressed with the BG250 that I was expecting it to completely be right there with the others. What I found was that the SVT7PRO/HT112 and RH750/HT112 were somewhat superior sounding (which probably shouldn't be a surprise). The mids on both heads were more open and crisp. There was no place the EQ could go on the BG250 that would make up for it. Boosting mids pushed it in the direction of a "honky" tone. No combination of controls that I could find made it happen.

It's not like this was some kind of beat-down. It's a difference more of nuance and accent. The BG250 continues to simply sound very good IMO. I like the simplicity of the EQ and the implementation of the dynamic midpoints seems to be good.

So, that leaves me to wonder what the BH250 would have done with the HT112

tombowlus · #12 07-23-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by drpepper

So, that leaves me to wonder what the BH250 would have done with the HT112

I've been playing the BH250 through my HT110, and that is a great match-up.

RichardCranium · #13 07-23-2012, 04:37 PM

I'm in. Love mine got nothing but good to say about it. Now that TC updated the Toneprint app the crashing issues are fixed. It sounds great and had nothing but compliments on it so far. It's ridiculous how light it is to carry around too very impressed with the whole package.

The effects sound pretty good and the app works really easy if they would come out with an envelope filter I could ditch my whole pedalboard. My only minor complaint is that the tuner is only regular tuning so if you tune a half step down it won't work although I read someplace that you can tune it from the first fret which sounds crazy enough to work.

The BG250 logo is just a metal sticker and peels right off which I did within 10 minutes of getting it home.

All I'm missing is the footswitch which I've seen online for under $50 to complete the package.

If you're looking for a small light weight combo trust me you won't be disappointed.

stepswork4me · #14 07-23-2012, 05:19 PM

Just got mine home and updated the firmware. I'm a little aloof as to the toneprint. It's gonna take a little bit to figure this out.

Darknut · #15 07-23-2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by drpepper

From the picture, I assume everything went fine, but removing the BG250 badge went without any fuss or muss?

yes its just a decal .... it came right off .... no glue mess or anything
I stuck it on the roadcase the amp lives in.

stepswork4me · #16 07-23-2012, 06:02 PM

So... Did your amp come in a box with the manual, usb and mini to mini cables? Mine didn't. I'm thinking that I flubbed and just paid full price for the floor model.

drpepper · #17 07-23-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Darknut

yes its just a decal .... it came right off .... no glue mess or anything
I stuck it on the roadcase the amp lives in.

Ha! Yeah I noticed it at the bottom of the picture.

I had actually grabbed mine and started to pull right after I unpacked it, but I just decided to leave it.

Since I now know there's no mess afterward, maybe I'll pull it off. I'm not crazy about it, but it doesn't bother me too much.

drpepper · #18 07-23-2012, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stepswork4me

So... Did your amp come in a box with the manual, usb and mini to mini cables? Mine didn't. I'm thinking that I flubbed and just paid full price for the floor model.

Yes. At the bottom of the box, there was a small box/compartment with usb and mini-mini cables. I don't remember where the manual was (somewhere in a plastic bag). There was also a form cut piece of cardboard on top with tone setting suggestions for different styles.

drpepper · #19 07-23-2012, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tombowlus

I've been playing the BH250 through my HT110, and that is a great match-up.

Very cool.

drpepper · #20 07-23-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardCranium

My only minor complaint is that the tuner is only regular tuning so if you tune a half step down it won't work although I read someplace that you can tune it from the first fret which sounds crazy enough to work.

I think we ought to make some kind of lobbying effort on this. The way the update works, I have a hard time believing that couldn't be put in as an option. Both groups I'm playing with tune down a half step too.

Tuning from the 1st fret takes some contortion.