TC Electronic Staccato Underpowered

[Frankdouglas]

After the most dissapointing 4 months i have taken the hit and sold my TC head.
Having spent the entire summer with the master at max and still not having anywhere near the volume needed, this is not a heavy metal band, its a 5 piece busy function band.
Really dissapointed, cant see the front panel in dark rooms to press the mute, input jack socket far too lightweight for a £1000 amp, sadowsky overloads input so gain it low to maintain clean sound which exponentially lowers overall output.
Thankfully never sold my EBS, very very dissapointed.

[vin*tone]

What cab?

[Rick Auricchio]

+1

And the Staccato's heavy mid-cut works against you being heard.

[4-string]

Also, check your preset levels, TubeTone knob in shift mode.

[JimmyM]

Well on the bright side, it only has half the wattage they claim anyway

[vin*tone]

Just saw your post in the TC thread - using a single 8Ω cab I guess it's going to struggle with your loud band. You should have tried adding a second to get the full output of the amp.... or you could go buy something else.

[KJung]

Something not right here. I think there might be some user error involved. As one who owned an RH450 and a couple of EBS heads (HD350 and TD650), there is NO WAY those EBS heads will outperform the RH450 or Staccato volume-wise.

If you find your EBS head significantly louder into the same cab, my guess is the secondary, post EQ volume control (accessed through the shift control) somehow got turned down to a very low level. It is almost impossible to turn the TC amps up past the noon level on the master with the preamp gain (primary and secondary) set appropriately.

The only other thing I can think of is that the huge low end baked into the Staccato overwhelmed your cab, but that is unlikely.

[Frankdouglas]

Running rs410 and rs212. Took delivery of a mesa M9 carbine today. Awesome tool!

[Rick Auricchio]

+1 to Ken's remarks.

[will33]

Baked in suck knob + half the power they told you it had = "I can't hear myself"

Simple solution...get rid of the TC and never buy another. It's the fool me once/fool me twice thing.

[lomo]

Originally Posted by Frankdouglas

Running rs410 and rs212. Took delivery of a mesa M9 carbine today. Awesome tool!

Now yer cookin' wit GASSSSSSSS

[RobJ]

I guess I'll cross TC off my list of amps to check out; Real drag about the half power thing if true.
I saw TOP in Seattle a couple of winters ago and Rocco had a couple of Staccato rigs... sounded awesome.. but then he's Rocco so he'd sound awesome through most anything.

[will33]

Originally Posted by RobJ

I guess I'll cross TC off my list of amps to check out; Real drag about the half power thing if true.
I saw TOP in Seattle a couple of winters ago and Rocco had a couple of Staccato rigs... sounded awesome.. but then he's Rocco so he'd sound awesome through most anything.

It wasn't the rigs you were hearing, those are his stage monitors. Look up the 236 watt RS450 as far as the half power thing goes.

It is a shame as TC did/does make some top notch studio gear, etc......just decided to stick it to the bassplayers and to this day, gives pr/marketing type explanations....or lack thereof....instead of just touting their technical prowess or labeling their stuff as what it really is.

[RobJ]

I was standing right in front of him and his backline at Jazz Alley, not a huge venue and was probably 15 or so feet away; I'm quite confident I was hearing his rig.

As to TC and honestly publishing their specs, amen to that. I was pretty surprised to read about this issue. Pretty sad really.

[will33]

Originally Posted by RobJ

I was standing right in front of him and his backline at Jazz Alley, not a huge venue and was probably 15 or so feet away; I'm quite confident I was hearing his rig.

As to TC and honestly publishing their specs, amen to that. I was pretty surprised to read about this issue. Pretty sad really.

If you were that close, you likely were getting a good dose of his backline rig, which is cool. Probably some wash from the PA or at least subs but still, very cool.

I don't doubt the tone was great and the volume was up there but still....being powerful and being as powerful as you claim to be are two different things......no knock against Rocco. Doesn't mean TC's can't sound good either, it's just the principle of the thing with me.

Done hijacking the thread now.

[vin*tone]

Originally Posted by will33

It wasn't the rigs you were hearing, those are his stage monitors. Look up the 236 watt RS450 as far as the half power thing goes.

It is a shame as TC did/does make some top notch studio gear, etc......just decided to stick it to the bassplayers and to this day, gives pr/marketing type explanations....or lack thereof....instead of just touting their technical prowess or labeling their stuff as what it really is.

The 236 watt limited output effects the first the first 0.02 seconds of the note played. It has minimal, if any, impact on the stage level issue the OP is having. He should have bought a 900 watt amp in the first place.

[will33]

Originally Posted by vin*tone

The 236 watt limited output effects the first the first 0.02 seconds of the note played. It has minimal, if any, impact on the stage level issue the OP is having. He should have bought a 900 watt amp in the first place.

Yeah, I saw the charts and graphs, facts are still facts.....should probably back out of this before I get another demerit.

[CapnSev]

Ah geez. Here we go again. Somebody que up the facepalm picture.

[Darko74]

Originally Posted by CapnSev

Ah geez. Here we go again. Somebody que up the facepalm picture.

[vin*tone]

Never ending storeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....