Tecamp Bonafide, Anyone using one?
So I'm looking to get a new amp. I just bought a slightly used Bergantino CN212(mint condition) with the thought of getting a Glockenklang Blue Soul. But with 2 very different sounding Basses(a Roscoe LG3005 and a Dingwall ABZ5 w/ a Glockenklang preamp) I've been looking at different 2 channel amps.
There's the Tecamp Bonafide(is this amp part of the Puma series? Seems like the same controls.), the Phil Jones D600 and the Walter Woods WW003 M-800. I do want a lightweight amp that can fit into my rack.
I'm going to be able to check out the Phil Jones D600 at a store in NYC but I haven't seen the Tecamp or WW at any stores locally.
I play in a Hard Rock/Metal cover band and a progressive/jambandish original project(think Phish meets Tool?)
The Blue Soul is still a serious contender since it matches most of the criteria except for the 2 channel thing.
Anyone have experience with these 4 amps? Thoughts?
Anyone have an opinion of any of these amps?
On the Tecamp site it states 2 amps is better than one but it doesn't have any info on which amp there is 2 of. Does anyone know anything about this amp? Is it a Puma series amp or a different circuit? If I had to assume i would assume it was since it looks exactly like the Puma 900 with the same controls and features. Does anyone know for sure? Any info would be appreciated.
How about the Phil Jones D600 anyone have/had one of these and want to share their experience?
I have yet to see a clear, concise description of the Bonafide. The manufacturer's description of controls is confusing. No one on TalkBass has been able to answer simple questions about this amp in other threads. I haven't seen anyone rave about it, but I have seen 'em for sale. I love my Puma 900 and 500(PS). But I wouldn't touch a Bonafide until the mystery is cleared up.
Thanks for the reply. I have done numerous searches and found nothing on this forum or anywhere else online. It's to bad since it seems like it could be my ultimate solution. I will be calling Austin Bass Traders tomorrow since I see they have them in stock. Someone there must be able to help.
Anyone care to chime in about any of the other amps?
I have not tried the Bona fide and have to agree with Ukia...but my Puma 900 is an incredible amp....specially coupled with the TecAmp M212
I would suggest you call Glenn at Austin Bass Traders - 512.445.5572. I talked to him at length about the TecAmp products and he was very helpful and knowledgeable. Of course, he is selling them, but he's a working bassist too and stands behind the products he sells so I don't think he would be less than straight up with you.
The Bonafide is one of the rare (and maybe only) true stereo bass amp on the market today. By stereo, I mean that each of its two preamps (basically two Puma500/900 fully featured preamps in a single larger case) can INDEPENDENTLY drive two power amps. This allows the player to do two things. The most typical reason (and the reason Richard Bona spec'd his signature amp this way I believe) is to run stereo effects. The other thing you can do is run one bass out of one cab, and another out of another cab (i.e., separate whole systems for a DB and an EB... which is a bit over the top).
There is a complex switching system on the back of the amp that allows you to run:
Bridged..... resulting in a two channel amp that can drive two 8ohm or one 4ohm large cab... kind of like the Walter Woods Electracoustic
Dual Mono.... resulting in two channels each driving each of the two power amps (a bit like the Genz Max 12.2, with the addition of a separate input for each channel), and allows you to run two 4ohm cabs (i.e., the equivalent of '2ohm safe) or multiple 8ohm cabs
Stereo.... this is the unique part, allowing you to have a true stereo system, allowing for use of stereo effects, and having the capability of powering two cabs, each with their own power amp AND own preamp settings.
So, for most, the Puma500/900 is the thing. If you are fine with a single channel, but need to run 2ohms, the Puma1000 will give you that capability. If you are fine with one channel, and run a single 4ohm or one or two 8ohm cab, it is the Puma500/900 for you. IF you need either two fully featured channels and/or true stereo capability, it would be the Bonafide for you.
Of course, there are the Jag heads, etc., but sticking to the Puma line, which I feel the Bonafide is part of.
Summary of the above... think of the Bonafide as literally two Puma500's in the same case, with switching capabilities that allow you to combine those two amps (two power amps and two preamps) in three ways :) Pretty slick for the relatively small number of players who need that capability.
The vast majority of players would find the Puma500/900 to fit their needs quite well (i.e., those who use one bass on a gig, don't use stereo effects, and/or don't need an amp that can drive two 4ohm cabs.
Well I just purchased one from the TB classifieds. I'll be hooking it up and checking it out when it arrives.
I'll be comparing it with my Eden WT800 and my, also new, Genz Benz Shuttle Max 9.2.
I love my Eden but I need to be able to transport my gear to and from gigs by myself in my Nissan Maxima. The added 26 lbs makes it difficult to lug my rack by myself so taking off 20lbs should make it doable. I've also gotten a Bergantino CN212 that will be my new gigging speaker cab. My Epifani 410 is close to 100 lbs and doesn't fit very easily into my car. Overall I will be losing close to 100 lbs by going to this new setup. My back just loves the thought of this. I can't wait to hear how these new combos will sound compared to my Eden and Epifani rig!!! I'm really hoping I won't lose to much volume. I know I should be losing a little but I'll soon see.
BTW I did contact Austin Bass Traders regarding the Bonafide and they responded very quickly. The only reason I'm not getting a brand new one from them is that I was able to get a used one and a brand new GB shuttlemax 9.2 for less.
The Bonafide is mentioned in this clip briefly. It is the only clip on Youtube or the internet that I've seen. Not a really great in depth review but worth a look if you're interested.
The current Puma line is in the same tone universe as your Eden and Genz.... punchy, tight, articulate, with a nice little bit of midrange distortion/character to really warm up the tone and keep things musical. The original Puma like was super hi fi.... massive, deep bass response, relaxed, uber clean mids, and a very hi fi upper treble response.
I am told by the TB'er who sold me the Bonafide that it is the Ice power module. I'm not sure what that means and how it will affect the tone. So my model would be a newer model then, right?
On a side note I recieved my Genz Benz Shuttlemax 9.2 and was able to hook it up to my Bergantino CN212... Wow Kjung!!! You were spot on by saying I would be happy with this amp. It sounds great!!!
I'm still intrigued by the Bonafide and am looking forward to seeing what different types of setups I can do. I may have to buy more Cab's... Lol!!!
I just noticed that the Bonafide only has one Di? What is the point of having something to be used as a stereo amp and only having one Di? Seems like a curious oversight to me. My application isn't for stereo effects so it will still work well for me but I found that to be odd.
Yes, looks like the DI is a 'summed mono' of the two preamps. There are separate line outs on the back of the amp for each preamp that could be used to drive two external DI's if you wanted to send a stereo signal to the board I guess.
Let us know how it sounds/works. Definitely a unique head. I see that the back panel also has a 'sub' switch on the second channel, for use in either driving that pleasure board or a subwoofer type cab (I assume it is basically a lo pass filter).
Definitely some unique possibilities with this amp. I will do a comprehensive evaluation when it arrives.
I have try, the puma 500, 900 and I'm playing with the black jag 900
..if I compared tecamp heads with few good brands :markbass f500, lm3 and, aguilar th500 .
But tecamp always won for me..
speaking of Tecamp M212. I have the classic M212 ceramics 45lb.and thinking of selling it..someone interested?
“CHANNEL B” features a unique “SUB” function doing
two different things simultaneously: When this switch
is depressed a low pass filter cuts all frequencies above
200 Hz. At the same time there is a level boost of 12 dB.
The manual also says this,
output power rating
2 x 350 watts @ 4 ohms
2 x 450 watts @ 2 ohms
1 x 700 watts @ 8 ohms mono bridged
1 x 900 watts @ 4 ohms mono bridged
I have a Bergantino AE212 that I plan on running side A through. It's 600 watts @ 4 ohms I think that as long as I don't push it, which I don't think I would ever need to, should be just fine. The other side, with the sub switch engaged, I'm thinking a 215 or a 115 cab would suffice. I'm thinking I would use the effects loop with my oc2, oxide fuzz and a pigtronix ep-2 envelope phaser and my Octavious squeezer synth pedal. Does anyone have a suggested cab that I should look at? I would prefer a one cab solution so it should be 4 ohms and probably 600 watts or less.
Makes little sense to run a full range cab with everything cut off above 200hz IMO.
IMO, the optimal configuration for that head is bridged into 8ohms. Plenty of watts, and you get away from running each side at 2ohms (which is what happens when you bridge to 4ohms).
If you want it big and massive down low, and still small and lightweight, the Greenboy fEARless (NOT fEARful) F115 would be killer with that head IMO. Also, Duke's new 8ohm T115 (I think he has one of those out now) would work great for a bit smoother, more studio monitor like vibe.
So would the AE212 be able to handle 700 watts bridged @ 8 ohms? or would I be better off using the CN212?
My goal isn't really massive low end but If I could have the "B" side set up to handle all of my "synth" settings at an even volume with my clean sounds....
I'm thinking I will try to use the CN212 on channel A and the AE212 on Channel 2 my only hesitation with doing this is that these are rated at 4 ohms and 600 and 700 watts respectively. I'm assuming it won't be an issue if I don't push it too loud. Am I right? Will this fry the amp? Each side of the amp pushes 350 watts at 4 ohms.
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