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02-01-2013, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Virgil ... Thank God everything can't be reduced to mathmatical certainty. And some things can't be explained, and have to be accepted. The fact that you heard what you felt was one of the best sounding cabs you have ever heard is enough. Further analysis is unnecessary. Its like walking down the street and you see a woman and you say "that's the most beautiful woman in the world." Are you wrong? No. Because everyone has the right to decide what they think is beautiful. Of course others will disagree, but that doesn't make you wrong. | Saying "That's the most beautiful woman in the world" is a universal claim, not a subjective claim. It would be different to say "In my opinion, she's the most beautiful woman I've ever seen". The latter statement is an evaluation which is relative to the speaker, not a statement of some purported objective fact.
In any case, I get the impression that the Tecamp stuff is worth a listen. Wish I could find it around here!
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02-01-2013, 04:04 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing Artist: Mesa Boogie-Spector Bass-Dunlop-EMG Pickups | | | | | Some guy was playing an FBass BN5 thru that cab at NAMM on Friday. My god, it was the $$. Sucked me in real quick. The tone was so clear. +1 for this rig. | 
02-01-2013, 04:37 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Colorado | | | Now we're back on track! And thanks to Tom B. for posting those excellent Pics! I never actually got a close look at the switch pad. Looks like something out of the original star trek series from the 60s! I love it!
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02-01-2013, 05:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK. | | | It might not be scientifically right, but it interests me! I like weird stuff like that, and tecamp make good bass cabs!
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02-01-2013, 06:42 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing artist: Brubaker Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Gaithersburg, Md | | Quote:
Originally Posted by 12bass Saying "That's the most beautiful woman in the world" is a universal claim, not a subjective claim. It would be different to say "In my opinion, she's the most beautiful woman I've ever seen". The latter statement is an evaluation which is relative to the speaker, not a statement of some purported objective fact.
In any case, I get the impression that the Tecamp stuff is worth a listen. Wish I could find it around here! | The problem is taking what could and likely is opinion as fact. As if that needs to be spelled out after every utterance.
Who ever says "That's the most beautiful woman in the world for me AND you"?  | 
02-05-2013, 06:32 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany | | Hope those new ceramic cabs hit the market soon. Those are some classy looking cabs and are really floating my boat!
Also don't see a real world practical aspect to the Virtue. Can't seem to find an advantage to bringing that to a gig rather than separate 210 and 212 cabs. Meh. But I'm all about trying new things and breaking the usual barriers. Maybe it'll work perfect for someone out there. | 
02-08-2013, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott McArron Hope those new ceramic cabs hit the market soon. Those are some classy looking cabs and are really floating my boat!
Also don't see a real world practical aspect to the Virtue. Can't seem to find an advantage to bringing that to a gig rather than separate 210 and 212 cabs. Meh. But I'm all about trying new things and breaking the usual barriers. Maybe it'll work perfect for someone out there. | I think i'd be willing to take the 60lb cab to even small gigs based on the unknown of room acoustics. I currently have 2 112 cabs that weigh more than that combined. In order for me to get a "Full" sound, i have to run those cabs together. So it's really a matter of " do i carry one cab in each hand or do i carry one cab with both hands." Same weight roughly, waaay more tonal possibilities with the Virtue. Granted cost is MUCH higher on the virtue than the 2 112's i have now. That would be the limiting factor for me, not the configuration, weight or fact that i might not be running all the drivers at once.
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02-08-2013, 10:52 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany | | Quote:
Originally Posted by larryelwood I think i'd be willing to take the 60lb cab to even small gigs based on the unknown of room acoustics. I currently have 2 112 cabs that weigh more than that combined. In order for me to get a "Full" sound, i have to run those cabs together. So it's really a matter of " do i carry one cab in each hand or do i carry one cab with both hands." Same weight roughly, waaay more tonal possibilities with the Virtue. Granted cost is MUCH higher on the virtue than the 2 112's i have now. That would be the limiting factor for me, not the configuration, weight or fact that i might not be running all the drivers at once. | I see what you're saying. But I don't think the realworld benefit is there. I've never known speaker size to be the deciding factor on room acoustics. That's best done with EQ, or in my case, a wonderful head that has worked in every room it's been in set flat, the infallible Puma 900.
Personally, I'd MUCH rather have two lightweight cabs, like a TecAmp 210 and 212, and either bring one or both of those to a gig depending on the gig. In 9.5 of 10 cases, the TecAmp 212, being so lightweight as it is and covering much of the tonal ground as the 10 loaded cabs, would fit the bill perfectly and render the 210 cab moot. And if I was going to use the 10's and 12's I'd prefer a vertical array (stacked cabs) for two reasons, sound is closer to my ear, and more even sound dispersion from the vertical speaker format.
Additionally, you can leave one cab at rehearsal or in the studio and leave one at home for practice, etc.
There just seem to be a ton more benefits to multiple cabs than this one particular one-cab solution, IMO. | 
02-08-2013, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott McArron I see what you're saying. But I don't think the realworld benefit is there. I've never known speaker size to be the deciding factor on room acoustics. That's best done with EQ, or in my case, a wonderful head that has worked in every room it's been in set flat, the infallible Puma 900.
Personally, I'd MUCH rather have two lightweight cabs, like a TecAmp 210 and 212, and either bring one or both of those to a gig depending on the gig. In 9.5 of 10 cases, the TecAmp 212, being so lightweight as it is and covering much of the tonal ground as the 10 loaded cabs, would fit the bill perfectly and render the 210 cab moot. And if I was going to use the 10's and 12's I'd prefer a vertical array (stacked cabs) for two reasons, sound is closer to my ear, and more even sound dispersion from the vertical speaker format.
Additionally, you can leave one cab at rehearsal or in the studio and leave one at home for practice, etc.
There just seem to be a ton more benefits to multiple cabs than this one particular one-cab solution, IMO. | Yeah.. Your point is a good one. I'm very close to getting a Puma 500 Probably early next week! I Currently run a Mesa Walkabout head. I absolutely love the "bedroom" sound of that head when i'm home and practicing. Buttery warm and defined with a nice top end. But on every gig i've had it on.. when you crank that amp, to me the tone just goes out the window. I've tried lower gain settings, tweaking the eq.. many combo's but live, at i high volume, to me at least, the Walkabout just loses everything i love about it. I'm willing to give up a little of the "buttery" warmth if I can replace it with an amp that ROCKs live and in the "bedroom". Hoping it will be the Puma 500. Sure sounded good at NAMM.
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02-08-2013, 02:37 PM
|  | She's My Inspiration | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dresher, Pa. | | | I clearly see the reasons for and against the TecAmp virtue. The bottom line is "To Each his Own." | 
02-11-2013, 11:08 AM
|  | Registered User Endorsing Artist: Brubaker Guitars | | | | | Who on this thread doesn't own mutliple cabs? Whether or not this cab is practical is a subjective choice as well. I'm sure an outsider could go through our arsenals and find many things not practical. This may be just another cab to add to the fold (for someone). I personally would love to be able to get down in the proper venue and play through a 2-10, 2-12, 3 tweeter cab with everything blasting. My slap tone would be killing. Artists create. Technicians re-create and gear is very subjective. The reason I play bass is because of it's ability to rock the house. One of the best feelings in the world for me is to hear and feel the power. I still remember being a little boy outside a club and hearing the bass pulsate through the walls and windows as I stand outside. I knew then and there that that was what I wanted to do. And I never thought of the practicality of the idea. As an older man I still feel the same way. if it's good, it's good.
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02-11-2013, 11:16 AM
|  | Always groove.... | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Columbia, Md | | | I very much like the idea of this cab.
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