Are there any 4 ohm cabinets that can replace two 4x10 cabinets??

Pedulla-Player · #1 12-07-2010, 08:17 AM

I had a thread about what's your favorite cabinet? Why?? Thanks for your input and suggestions. I'm just tired of hauling around two (Markbass 104HF - 8 ohm) bass cabinets and would rather just haul one cabinet. What single 4 ohm cabinets (Beside an 8x10) could compete with two 4x10's and sound good doing it?? Am I asking too much of a single cabinet?? I'd be willing to pay good money for one that could do this. Thanks again for all of your input!

BuzzKing · #2 12-07-2010, 08:38 AM

Well, any 8X10 should work?

Alexander · #3 12-07-2010, 08:39 AM

The obvious answer here is an 810, I'd think. Some say the Bergantino NV610 is the best 810 around, which I'd agree with. So there you go...

Musicman20 · #4 12-07-2010, 08:45 AM

NV610, NV412 (Berg).

DB810, DB412 (Aguilar)

Pedulla-Player · #5 12-07-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BuzzKing

Well, any 8X10 should work?

Lol - Very true indeed. I should have stated standard sized cabs , or at least cabs smaller than a 8x10.

I just read a good review on a Schreoder (4x12 I believe) , and I heard good things about the Accugroove El Whappo , but I'm not sure if you can get a new Accugroove at the moment. I was just wondering if there may be others , and if what I heard about the two that I mentioned were off-bass (excuse my pun). Thanks

Pedulla-Player · #6 12-07-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Musicman20

NV610, NV412 (Berg).

DB810, DB412 (Aguilar)

I'm definitely interested in Berg cabinets - I just don't know what the difference is between NV cabs and AE cabs. I believe the IP's have an internal power amp.

I'm kinda interested in Aggie and Genz cabs that may be capable of replacing two 4x10's.

Someone mentioned that LoPhat cabs were good and up-incoming , but I know nothing about them.

Regardless , I'd just like to replace my two 8 ohm 4x10 cabinets with one 4 ohm cab that will move a lot of air and still sound good. As a last resort I'd replace them with a 8x10 , but I'm hoping for a couple better options. Thanks for your input.

billfitzmaurice · #7 12-07-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player

What single 4 ohm cabinets (Beside an 8x10) could compete with two 4x10's and sound good doing it??

A 2x12/2x6 cab of the fEarful style.

kosmicwizard · #8 12-07-2010, 09:01 AM

I would say suck it up and get this, the Berg and Aguilar are good suggestions too.

http://www.genzbenz.com/?fa=detail&m...sid=611&cid=96

It would totally match your new Streamliner 900 and weights as little as a Bag End 4x10. Cheers.

Pedulla-Player · #9 12-07-2010, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kosmicwizard

I would say suck it up and get this, the Berg and Aguilar are good suggestions too.

http://www.genzbenz.com/?fa=detail&m...sid=611&cid=96

It would totally match your new Streamliner 900 and weights as little as a Bag End 4x10. Cheers.

Maybe I should have added "and not weigh a lot" to the thread. I just had umbilical hernia surgery last summer and I don't do any heavy lifting at work. I would bet my bottom dollar (whatever that means??) that it was from lifting my cabinets every weekend from my house to my vehicle - vehicle to gig - gig to vehicle ~ vehicle back into my house.
I had to play a gig for a biker rally 3 days after my hernia surgery. I didn't want to cancel the gig and have a bunch of pi$$ed of Harley riders hunting me down because I ruined their poker run - lol.

DJJazzV · #10 12-07-2010, 09:15 AM

I replaced my 4x10 + 1x15 with a Bergantino HT322. 4ohms, 800 watts. Monster! Couldn't be happier. Good luck in your search.

kosmicwizard · #11 12-07-2010, 09:17 AM

I totally hear you. I can tell you from experience that 8x10's are not that bad because you can roll them and slide them into vehicles. Much better imo than lifting them. Also the uber is ONLY 120 Lbs ... really light for a 8x10 imo. Won't the guys in your band help out at all? Even if you sell it to them as hey look guys, using this gear helps me sound better, and me sounding better makes all of us sound better.

Cheers.

NKUSigEp · #12 12-07-2010, 09:18 AM

Aguilar GS412...it's the same size as an 8x10 and only weighs 10 lbs more than most 4x10's.

Pedulla-Player · #13 12-07-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

A 2x12/2x6 cab of the fEarful style.

Thanks for your input Bill. I am very intrigued about fEarful cabinets , but I work as a c/nc machinist 50+ hours a week and play in my band most weekends and I don't have much free time to build a cabinet. Not to mention that I'm good at working with metal - not wood. I'd be interested in buying one , but I'm worried about buying someones home-made cabinet and possibly buying their mistakes , or them using cheap speakers and electronics and trying to pull something over on someone. I'd trust you thou - have any for sale - Lol???

AwkwardLoudness · #14 12-07-2010, 09:25 AM

For a lotta loud and less weight, I would try the Schroeder BMF412 Neo. 65 lbs / 1600w handling / 104 dB senstitity / 4Ω or 8Ω.

http://www.schroedercabinets.com/bmf-412.htm

KJung · #15 12-07-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player

I'm definitely interested in Berg cabinets - I just don't know what the difference is between NV cabs and AE cabs. I believe the IP's have an internal power amp.

I'm kinda interested in Aggie and Genz cabs that may be capable of replacing two 4x10's.

IP's are out of production. BIG differences between the four current Berg product lines:

AE... neo... relatively lightweight, punchy, modern... 112, 212, 210, 410... two way ported with tweeter

HS.... ceramic... heavier, more smooth and 'modern meets old school' sort of vibe... 210, 410... two way ported with tweeter

HT... ceramic... heavier... kind of the last of the traditional wide, deep, crisp, somewhat hi fi original HT line. Only a 112 in this line... two way ported with tweeter

NV.. 'New Vintage'... ceramic drivers, heavy, sealed, one way.... 610 and 412.

Only the AE line would match your weight requirements, and while the 212 and 410 are 4ohm, they aren't going to give you the wump of two 410's.

Boostedrex · #16 12-07-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

A 2x12/2x6 cab of the fEarful style.

+1 to this. Or even a fEarful 15/15/6/6. That would surely be a monster!

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Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player

Thanks for your input Bill. I am very intrigued about fEarful cabinets , but I work as a c/nc machinist 50+ hours a week and play in my band most weekends and I don't have much free time to build a cabinet. Not to mention that I'm good at working with metal - not wood. I'd be interested in buying one , but I'm worried about buying someones home-made cabinet and possibly buying their mistakes , or them using cheap speakers and electronics and trying to pull something over on someone. I'd trust you thou - have any for sale - Lol???

LDS can/will build one for you using the same drivers as the original fEarful cabs. That way you can get the cab you want and not have to worry about the possible issue of a "home made" cab from someone you don't know. Just some food for thought.

kosmicwizard · #17 12-07-2010, 10:12 AM

I prefer LSD ... but I don't know how the cabs would turn out. Cheers.

esa372 · #18 12-07-2010, 10:25 AM

Check out the new DNA cabs, too.

Alexander · #19 12-07-2010, 10:49 AM

I'm in love with 4x12s at the moment - if you are cool with a sealed cab, the Bergantino NV412 is the bees knees. Tilt & roll - is shorter, but lighter than the Ampeg 810. I have a bad back too and am good moving this by myself (with the exception of stairs). The GK 412 Neo cabs seem to get a lot of love - with neo speakers and ported design is certainly a different flavour. But lighter weight, I believe. Also hear a lot about the Aguilar GS412 cab - ceramic drivers, ported, so heavier than the GK and yet again a different profile.

IME, the NV412 easily whumps the UL410 I had previously - not sure it could take on two of them, but it is seriously all the cab I need... And if 10s are your thing, the NV610 is a similar option...

BigOldHarry · #20 12-07-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player

I had a thread about what's your favorite cabinet? Why?? Thanks for your input and suggestions. I'm just tired of hauling around two (Markbass 104HF - 8 ohm) bass cabinets and would rather just haul one cabinet. What single 4 ohm cabinets (Beside an 8x10) could compete with two 4x10's and sound good doing it?? Am I asking too much of a single cabinet?? I'd be willing to pay good money for one that could do this. Thanks again for all of your input!

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