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11-29-2011, 04:49 PM
|  | I'm Really a Drummer | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Rock City, TN | | | Are These Speakers Creased?
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I think I know the answer already (  ), but I've never creased a cone on one of my own amps.
The speakers in these pics are on a used Eden 410XLT that I'm looking at. The price is all right, but I don't think the cones are...
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And, yes, that probably is bird crap on the bottom left cone. Makes me wonder what the liquid on the two left speakers is...  |
11-29-2011, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Charley Umbria  I think I know the answer already ( ), but I've never creased a cone on one of my own amps.
The speakers in these pics are on a used Eden 410XLT that I'm looking at. The price is all right, but I don't think the cones are...
What say ye, TB?
Top Left
Top Right
Bottom Left
Bottom Right
And, yes, that probably is bird crap on the bottom left cone. Makes me wonder what the liquid on the two left speakers is... | Sorry the cones are totally fekked!. this is due to some twat not being sensitive to running out of X max let alone X lim.
When will people stop reading the thermal rating?.
Christmass that cab must have been sounding utterly pants while that damage was being done.
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11-29-2011, 05:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | | Yeah man, none of them are any good. If that thing was left out in the weather, I wouldn't be so sure even the box is solid. |
11-29-2011, 05:42 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seweracuse, NY | | | Skip on that one, someone cooked it.
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11-29-2011, 06:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Alameda, California | | | It's a total write-off; the cost of reconing 4 drivers would almost exactly equal the used value of a functioning cab, assuming everything else on the cab is in great shape, which isn't likely.
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11-29-2011, 07:15 PM
| | I'm Really a Drummer | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Rock City, TN | | Thanks for the quick replies, all. That's pretty much what I thought, too.
Oh, well. I guess it's back to watching the TB Classifieds for a great deal on a 410!  |
11-29-2011, 07:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Here we are... | | Carvin 4x10
Super cheap,in your state,and seller has great feedback.....
EDIT: I am not affiliated with this sale.
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11-29-2011, 07:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jackson, MO | | | Reconing kits are $65 for each speaker. Not hard to do on your own. That cab, in good shape... probably $450.
Ask to pull a driver, take a look inside, knock it around a bit, listen for rattles, and if you can get the total package for less than the $450 (including the reconing kits), I'd say go for it. An Eden cab with (essentially) new drivers is definitely worthwhile.
Also, you can paint the backside of the cones with a thin coat of epoxy or polyester resin, and possibly return the cones to a fair stiffness.
So, basically, creased cones is not good... but, I wouldn't let that be a dealbreaker. Besides, I really don't know any bassists that pay attention to when they run out of xmax or xlim. Plug in, play, shake some booties, and go home with a smile and tinnitus.
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11-29-2011, 07:42 PM
| | I'm Really a Drummer | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Rock City, TN | | Quote:
Originally Posted by 5StringBlues Carvin 4x10
Super cheap,in your state,and seller has great feedback.....
EDIT: I am not affiliated with this sale. | Hah, good ole helpful TB! Thanks for the link, 5String. Unfortunately, I need a 4 ohm cab.
That is a good deal, though... |
11-29-2011, 07:53 PM
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Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Hampshire | | | The pics aren't definitive. They may be creased, they may be only water stained. Usually a crease is very obvious, and that's not the case from what I see. You can tell by running your hand over the cone, if it's a crease you'll be able to feel it. |
11-29-2011, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice The pics aren't definitive. They may be creased, they may be only water stained. Usually a crease is very obvious, and that's not the case from what I see. You can tell by running your hand over the cone, if it's a crease you'll be able to feel it. | Thanks, Bill. I probably should have mentioned that in the OP. I can definitely feel a change in the paper's surface angle. As far as I can tell (and I'm not an expert) the liquid staining is limited to the droplets seen in the pictures. Oh, and the bird poop!
Just for the sake of discussion, if the cones weren't creased, would the bird droppings make this a better cab for metal? 
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11-29-2011, 09:23 PM
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11-30-2011, 05:02 AM
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Proprietor Springvale Studios | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ipswich UK | |  Umm!
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Originally Posted by Charley Umbria Thanks, Bill. I probably should have mentioned that in the OP. I can definitely feel a change in the paper's surface angle. As far as I can tell (and I'm not an expert) the liquid staining is limited to the droplets seen in the pictures. Oh, and the bird poop!
Just for the sake of discussion, if the cones weren't creased, would the bird droppings make this a better cab for metal? | Elimentary my dear Watson the evidence is plain to see, this cabinet was used in some kind of hideous cruel brown note experiment. Obviously (inspects cabinet with large magnifying glass)
the cabinet has been positioned directly under a parrot cage and then plugged into a 60hz mains supply socket.
Although the experiment appears to have been quite successful, I fear that the future performance of the eden cabinet may have been somewhat compromised in this process.
PS Having had some experience in these matters I believe Bat guano is the preferred deposit for most of the metal genre.
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11-30-2011, 11:13 AM
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