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BassAgent 01-27-2013 07:01 AM

Thinking of saving for a tube amp...but which one?
 
I was recording with my band the other day and concluded that I need a good tube amp. I have an Aguilar AG500SC at the moment, which I'm planning to keep next to the tube amp, because it works perfect in cover bands and such ;)

But with NONA, it's kind of becoming a necessity. Now I don't want an Ampeg. I have never been able to get a sound I like out of an Ampeg, and no, it's not my bass or my fingers ;)

So what I'm looking for is a fat tube amp that doesn't go into overdrive too quickly, and is a liiiiiittle bit affordable. What to do? Bassman? Ashdown? Traynor? Something else?

iualum 01-27-2013 07:25 AM

Mesa Boogie 400+. A powerful workhorse. Reliable. Versatile. Relatively lightweight. Not outrageously priced. All things considered, among the very best amps of any sort, ever.

Floyd Eye 01-27-2013 07:29 AM

Mesa or Traynor. Vintage obviously.

blindrabbit 01-27-2013 07:37 AM

I do believe that one of the Aguilar threads the other day had someone making the comparison between the TH heads and the Traynor YBA-300. I really like the tone that comes from the Traynor tube heads, and I love the sounds that come from my TH heads, so maybe there is something to be said for that comparison. Traynor gear is as reliable as you can get, unlike some of the other brands you've mentioned, and its also probably the least expensive of the options due to its underrated nature.

I personally wouldn't choose Ampeg either.

Last thought - what about a DB751? Does it have to be all tubes? Also, I believe Aguilar did briefly have an all-tube option, I've seen a few pop up around here. Consider that too.

BassAgent 01-27-2013 07:57 AM

Yes, Aguilar had a full-tube head, the DB359. They're quite rare and expensive though ;)

Yes, it has to be all tubes :) I want to replace the AG500 with the DB751 someday, but I wanna have a dirty tube amp next to that as well... I'll check out Traynor stuff!

RickenBoogie 01-27-2013 08:02 AM

Mesa Bass Buster 200. Clean and tubeylishous.

Nemasis 01-27-2013 08:10 AM

I occasionally use the Peavey VB-3 bass head when I play out. It has 300 watts and weighs about 35 lbs. it works extremely well when going against Marshall stacks. Price may be the only downside.... $1700.

BassAgent 01-27-2013 08:37 AM

I was thinking of the Eden VT300 or Sadowsky SA200, but both of them are quite rare as well ;)

Tractorr 01-27-2013 08:45 AM

I would give the Peavey VB2 a try. They can be had very cheap. They are not the dirtiest tube amps out there, but they sound amazing for the money, don't try to emulate Ampeg, and take distortion really well.

They can be had all day used for 600 or lower, and if you don't like it it probably won't be too hard to get back what you paid.

Oh also way lighter than most of the really big tube amps (only 57 pounds).

Mr. Foxen 01-27-2013 08:45 AM

If not overdriving too easily is the plan, get a well serviced vintage amp, like a Sound City or something, in the day, amps weren't made to get dirty. Tons of others about, being in Europe, there are probably domestic makes, anything imported from the US is going to be way overpriced for its level, but on a fairly US-centric forum, is going to mostly what you get recommended brand wise.

BassAgent 01-27-2013 08:50 AM

Hmmm, Sound City, hadn't thought about that one. And what about a Sunn Model T?

guymanndude1 01-27-2013 09:00 AM

I'm with tractorr, the VB2 isn't a budget breaker, and wonderful sound. Also, one other suggestion, a matching set of Electro-Harmonix 6ac7's. Makes a great sounding amp sound more awesome.

Mr. Foxen 01-27-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BassAgent (Post 13784971)
And what about a Sunn Model T?

About the most massively overpriced amp you can think of. They sound good when they work, big transformers, but huge scene tax from the name badge, and they aren't made to a particularly high standard, kind of a workingman's quality amp at a beyond boutique price. Plus good luck getting one to Europe, a couple of the hire places have bought all of them, leaving you with importing them from the states, and then having to sort the power supply, because US domestic amps tend not to have multi tap power transformers.

mizzou541 01-27-2013 09:18 AM

Eden or Mesa Boogie

Ferdugan 01-27-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by iualum (Post 13784650)
Mesa Boogie 400+. A powerful workhorse. Reliable. Versatile. Relatively lightweight. Not outrageously priced. All things considered, among the very best amps of any sort, ever.

Yeah amazing amp. But good luck finding one. I was shopping for one a month ago with no success. I ended up finding a good deal on a marshall vba 400 though. :)

mjac28 01-27-2013 10:24 AM

Get a tube preamp like the Meatsmoke this thing is a beast and has a dedicated line out for recording that way you can still save your back.

Old Fart 01-27-2013 10:26 AM

I respect you guys' ears and preferences but, respectfully, it is hard for me to understand a preference for amps "other than Ampeg." I have a Magnavox-era SVT that, to my ear is a tone MONSTER.

bassvi 01-27-2013 10:29 AM

Marshall VBA400 is my fav. More than ample power, can get insanely loud clean with the outbut dimed and gain just barely up. Bright switch is nice too when you need a modern, spanky tone. Handles on the sides make it seem easier to carry than my VB2, even though it weighs more.

iualum 01-27-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferdugan (Post 13785401)
Yeah amazing amp. But good luck finding one. I was shopping for one a month ago with no success. I ended up finding a good deal on a marshall vba 400 though. :)

If the OP wasn't in The Netherlands, I'd suggest he might want to PM me about one. But pretty sure shipping would make it prohibitive. Oh well, happy hunting.

BassAgent 01-27-2013 01:14 PM

Ehehehe yep. They're heavy alright.

Thanks for the tips, guys! Sure helps :)


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