TL 606 and Emi 2515 Neo

[skruch]

Hi. New guy here. I built a TL 606 cab about 20 years ago out of solid core mahagony plywood. It had a JBL D130F with K140 cone in it up to a week ago. Too heavy for my old back for occasional jamming. I just bought and installed a Eminence Basslite 2515 in it. I have an amp coming so I can't hear it yet. Did I do good? Thanks for any opinions. FYI, no port cover.

[Bass_Pounder]

Not sure that anyone has done that speaker.

The favorite for loading into the TL606/Mesa Cabs is the 3015

[Sundogue]

I love the Basslite 2515. Used them for years in two 115 cabs (20X20X16). Not sure how it will do in that cab offhand. The xmax isn't too bad for an older design, has a fairly high thermal limit and can be pushed pretty hard giving a nice naturally compressed tone in the right cab.

[skruch]

Any updates/opinions to using a Emi Basslite 2515 in this or any other cabinet? Thanks.

[rpsands]

The basslite will have an aggressive +2db centered around 90hz, with the 40hz tuning option. It'll probably sound pretty warm, and be displacement limited to around 100 watts (realistically, 200 watt MB200 or so would be perfect).

Without the port cover I believe it's tuned to 50hz. That's fine, if you're playing a 4-string, but will give a 3.5db midbass hump centered about 90hz. Really boomy.

This driver really wants a bigger box, but you can alleviate that by using the 40hz tuning, somewhat.

Your -3db point is about 55hz, and the rolloff is really rapid below that.

[skruch]

Thanks again.

[skruch]

I tried stuffing a rolled up piece of foam rubber in the port hole. This did smooth out the sound some and made it less boomy. I use an Aria Pro II CSB 380 4 string and a SWR WM160 amp. Thanks again for the tip.

[rpsands]

Awesome! Nice looking cab, too.

[singlemalt]

I went with the 3015's and made the port 1" taller. Your cab looks too nice for surgery at this point. You could probably build another from scratch faster than doing a mod.

It would be easy to make a black port cover and screw it on to see if that give you a bit more low.

We'd all be interested to see what you think of the 2515. What do they cost? Are they 8 ohm or 4 ohm.

How much weight did you lose by changing the driver?

[Gizmot]

Getting the ports sized correctly for whatever woofer you choose is as important as the choice of woofer.
For my money, give me an EV - they're warmer, go lower and have better octave-to-octave balance than the JBLs. However, neither one is a lightweight choice.
I think it's amazing how much heavy gear we used to carry around without complaining.

[rpsands]

For the record, a Deltalite 2515 II will be much smoother down low with a very similar -3db point to the Basslite, with more midrange content, if that's what someone was after. I think I'd personally prefer the Basslite over either the Kappalite or the Deltalite, as I like some of that upper bass, but that's just me.

With prices the way they are, not a lot of point going for a Deltalite over a Kappalite though.

[skruch]

I chose the Basslite because it is 4 ohm and weighs 5.7 pounds. It is replacing a JBL D-130 with K-140 cone that was 8 ohm and about 16 pounds. My newly purchased SWR is 160 watts @ 4ohms. The cab sounds really nice with my Aria, which to me sounds more like a Ric 4001 than my real 4001. Very "piano bassy." I paid $92 for the speaker as a "used-like new" from MF. It is in perfect shape. The cab is now 50 pounds total and solid as a rock construction wise. I now have a black neoprene mouse pad rolled up and stuffed in there for the time being.

[skruch]

To further the story I asked Eminence about how well a Basslite would work in a TL606. I gave them the parameters for a TL606 and they sent me back a plot from their cab software that was almost identical to the plot for their small vented cab design. They also confirmed that the Basslite would work well in the TL606. The specs are very similar. I can also confirm that it sounds just fine in there. Not super deep, but modern and well defined with a nice crisp top end. I would reccomend the Basslite 2515 to anyone who wants a 4 ohm and 5.7# powerhouse.

[will33]

It kinda surprises me more folks aren't using the basslite series speakers. At least before the kappalite's came out. The things run (or used to at least) cheaper than the deltalites, have as much or a little more xmax and can play a little deeper in the same size box. Or just as deep in a bit smaller box depending on what you're looking for. They don't have as much of a rising response in the mids which can be a plus for a lot of us if you're using a "one speaker does it all" approach instead of crossovers, different drivers for different passbands, etc.

I've never understood that. Lower thermal ratings, different motor structure maybe? Was the deltalite that much more popular just because it's the platform used by most OEM, proprietary stuff?

[rpsands]

I always, always recommend the Basslite 10s over the Deltalites. Lots cheaper for the same level of performance for most applications.

In multi-driver cabs, the Basslite S2012 offers a ton of bang for the buck, also.

The C2515 has issues in that it's only available in 4 ohms, when its thermal rating makes it most applicable for a 2x15 cabinet. Kinda lame.

[skruch]

The 4 ohm thing was a big selling point for me.

[skruch]

Had a garage jam today. My setup worked better than expected. Sounded really solid. I be happy camper.