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Old 11-16-2011, 11:07 AM
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Well, we all know how things sound different from one place to another. And, we know that what you hear in the store doesn't tell you what it will be like at a gig.

I had been playing my rig at home this week, in the living room, heh, heh. It's a Markbass Little Mark III with a Traveler 151P cab. While the head is widely acclaimed as having a slightyly warm sound to be so transparent, the cab is not known for being too deep, but rather a bit rich in mids. I've played some gigs with it, though, when it seemed to handle more lows than I expected, up to a certain volume, of course. But, at home this week I was a bit worried about it. The mids really shined, and the lows were hard to coax out, it seemed. I kept thinking that maybe it isn't the best cab for what I do. Aw...

So, I go to the gig last night, set up, and begin to test the sound. The amp was flat, no filters. What the...? I had to look twice at the knobs. The highs and mids didn't stand out, but the bottom sure did. Hm. Now lemme see here...

I tried a setting I had liked at home with just a bit of VPF filter and the VLE up to around noon. I also usually cut the high mids some to keep the sound of my fingernails at bay a bit (this was a blues gig, too, so...). Played a tune that way and it was way too bassy, too deep. Finally, I rolled the VPF back to about 8:00, barely on. Aha, much better. Still the mids and highs were not jumping out at me like at home.

After a set another group was to play (this was a blues jam). he played my bass (Fender Jazz) and my amp, set just like i left it. I was so ready to go out there and listen to my own rig. Of course, he would play without any fingernails and in his own way, but still...

Awesome. I mean, the bass sounded like a bass oughta. Fine, fat tone, no shimmering highs, no honking mids, very nice for blues. I was very pleased---and relieved that my 151P cab can indeed produce good lows with thump. I was also puzzled why it could sound so very different. I was, actually, amazed at HOW different the rig sounded at the gig from how it sounded back at home.

I wanted to post this for all those of us who go play stuff in the store and wonder how it will perform at a gig. I think the real answer is to borrow it to play a gig with, if possible. However, just one gig may not tell the whole story. The very next venue may be a nightmare. You never know. I have aother gig at a small retaurant Friday night, a place I've never played before. Can't wait to hear how it will be different again.
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:58 AM
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What you describe is very real, yet a lot of bass players are in denial about it. Kudos to you for listening with your ears instead of your eyes!!
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Old 11-16-2011, 12:05 PM
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Well, I bought this cab a few months ago, and have been gigging with it. I have been fairly satisfied with it, and it seemed to have more lows than what I kept reading about in other folks' reports. But, for some reason this week I was wondering if I had been deceiving myself. Apparently not, though. It really sounded nice and full at the gig last night. Who knows what I will find next time. But, again, my point is that you just can't go by what you hear at one place. It takes time at different places to really know what you have, it seems.
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Old 11-16-2011, 12:08 PM
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Welcome to the world of playing odd sized rooms week after week after week.............
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Old 11-16-2011, 12:15 PM
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This is how I use these "enhance" type of control.

When at home, turn up the enhance, until it sound more or less ok, then go pass just some more.
Then use the EQ to calm it down until I come to a sound I like. That's a pretty dramatic 'frown' face for me.

Then when I go live, I just back off the enhance. Voilą !!
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Old 11-16-2011, 12:42 PM
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Well, I bought this cab a few months ago, and have been gigging with it. I have been fairly satisfied with it, and it seemed to have more lows than what I kept reading about in other folks' reports. But, for some reason this week I was wondering if I had been deceiving myself. Apparently not, though. It really sounded nice and full at the gig last night. Who knows what I will find next time. But, again, my point is that you just can't go by what you hear at one place. It takes time at different places to really know what you have, it seems.
After a while you get a feel for which guys gig a lot and which don't. Without any disrespect, you're never going to experience Fletcher-Munsen phenomenon by making YouTube videos in your bedroom. Taking things above 100dB is a total game changer. Throw in room acoustics, and not to mention phase cancellation with several instruments on stage all competing for the same mid frequency band, and your post above makes total sense to those of us in the know.
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