the TRACE ELLIOT thread: Part II - Page 33

SGD Lutherie · #**641** 01-08-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SGD Lutherie

I have one of the 150W models. It's a loud little amp!

Now I have the head removed from the cab and an in box I made for it, and I use it with the Mesa cab.

i Have this amp in the classifieds here in case anyone is looking for one.

**faviobarrio** · #**642** 01-08-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SGD Lutherie

i Have this amp in the classifieds here in case anyone is looking for one.

That is exactly my temptation!

Someone please buy it before I have money in my pocket and my family goes without heat for a month!

Aragorn35016 · #**643** 01-12-2013, 05:34 AM

Look what i am reacquiring this morning!

I had to sell this a year ago to pay some bills to a guy on the other side of the state and have regretted it since. I put out a want add for some trace gear and lo and behold the guy I sold it to offered to sell it back to me for the same price I sold it to him for! In my little world the AH1200SM is the greatest bass amp ever produced! I know Ill never find one in this area and id probably have to drive half way across the country to by one, but id love to put this thing through a trace 810 cab.

Count Bassie · #**644** 01-12-2013, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn35016

Look what i am reacquiring this morning!

I had to sell this a year ago to pay some bills to a guy on the other side of the state and have regretted it since. I put out a want add for some trace gear and lo and behold the guy I sold it to offered to sell it back to me for the same price I sold it to him for! In my little world the AH1200SM is the greatest bass amp ever produced! I know Ill never find one in this area and id probably have to drive half way across the country to by one, but id love to put this thing through a trace 810 cab.

Very nice! Even though I'm an SWR convert, I still gotta hand it to Trace Elliot... in fact I'm in the middle of re-acquiring my old beat-up-but-still-kicking 1048, red-stripe era...

Triad · #**645** 01-12-2013, 01:20 PM

This is my Twin Valve. I've also owned a VA350 and a GP7 150 combo in the past.

EDIT: forgot to renew the membership and the pic won't load

Aragorn35016 · #**646** 01-12-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Bassie

Very nice! Even though I'm an SWR convert, I still gotta hand it to Trace Elliot... in fact I'm in the middle of re-acquiring my old beat-up-but-still-kicking 1048, red-stripe era...

Thanks! The head needs some long overdue tlc, I'm gonna retolex it and repaint the corners (and order another corner for the 1153 cab)

Aragorn35016 · #**647** 01-12-2013, 02:39 PM

I took the amp out of its case to clean it out, i forgot about this, but the first time I owned this amp (I originally got it about 4 years ago) I took it apart to blow it out and forgot about the amp on the side. It was odd to me then as it is now that the fan is on the side of the amp, and only air it can pull in is through the gap between the side of the amp and the side of the box. Seems like they would have put some vents in the box for better ventilation. I guess the knew what they were doing, it was built in 94 and is still going strong!

Edit: I noticed that the box appears to be made form mdf, but looks like it has layers like plywood??? (I didnt know mdf was multi-ply showing my ignorance I guess ) are 1153 cabs made out of the same material??

Count Bassie · #**648** 01-12-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn35016

I took the amp out of its case to clean it out, i forgot about this, but the first time I owned this amp (I originally got it about 4 years ago) I took it apart to blow it out and forgot about the amp on the side. It was odd to me then as it is now that the fan is on the side of the amp, and only air it can pull in is through the gap between the side of the amp and the side of the box. Seems like they would have put some vents in the box for better ventilation. I guess the knew what they were doing, it was built in 94 and is still going strong!

Edit: I noticed that the box appears to be made form mdf, but looks like it has layers like plywood??? (I didnt know mdf was multi-ply showing my ignorance I guess ) are 1153 cabs made out of the same material??

Oddly the 1153s, and many of the not-so-old cabs are MDF. That head, I don't know, seems that one wouldn't bother laminating MDF... I'd think that if it looks like plywood, it is plywood...

Aragorn35016 · #**649** 01-12-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Bassie

Oddly the 1153s, and many of the not-so-old cabs are MDF. That head, I don't know, seems that one wouldn't bother laminating MDF... I'd think that if it looks like plywood, it is plywood...

From the side it looks ply woodish though the layers are really thin, on the surface its definitely msd or particle board at least that's what it looks like on the inside of the box, ill know more when I get the tolex off of it.

Count Bassie · #**650** 01-12-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn35016

From the side it looks ply woodish though the layers are really thin, on the surface its definitely msd or particle board at least that's what it looks like on the inside of the box, ill no more when I get the tolex off of it.

I had an AH250 MK IV, and the box was definitely plywood.

My name is Mudd · #**651** 01-12-2013, 05:41 PM

The factory case for my '94 AH130 is definitely plywood.

Aragorn35016 · #**652** 01-12-2013, 06:04 PM

Got the tolex off (which came off surprisingly easy didnt even rip it once!) looks like mdf to me, the only thing that looks to be plywood is the rails that hold the amps face plate. Here's some pics.

Count Bassie · #**653** 01-12-2013, 06:25 PM

Ayup. That right there is what we around here term "MDF".

Ayup.

Count Bassie · #**654** 01-12-2013, 06:25 PM

I'll wager it sounds just as good as plywood in its present use...

Aragorn35016 · #**655** 01-12-2013, 06:37 PM

Oh yeah I dont care if it was made out of plastic it all it does is hold the head. I took a handle off one of the cabs, they're mfd as well, but they're solid as a rock and sound great! Now that I got the cover off the amp cab time to drill and dowel stripped screw holes and reinforce the rails! Gonna take the head to work and spray the dust out and clean the pots. I dont know where its been in the year that I haven't owned it, but the innards look like they've been in a sandstorm. It's amazing what that fan pulls into the chassis.

Count Bassie · #**656** 01-12-2013, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn35016

Oh yeah I dont care if it was made out of plastic it all it does is hold the head. I took a handle off one of the cabs, they're mfd as well, but they're solid as a rock and sound great! Now that I got the cover off the amp cab time to drill and dowel stripped screw holes and reinforce the rails! Gonna take the head to work and spray the dust out and clean the pots. I dont know where its been in the year that I haven't owned it, but the innards look like they've been in a sandstorm. It's amazing what that fan pulls into the chassis.

Cool man- go get 'em! I can't even imagine how loud that thing must be able to get... that's a good era though. Way to be, scoring it back.

Aragorn35016 · #**657** 01-12-2013, 07:01 PM

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Cool man- go get 'em! I can't even imagine how loud that thing must be able to get... that's a good era though. Way to be, scoring it back.

Yeah its wierd to feel like you have limitless power.

Seriously ive ran a marshall out of the room with this thing and these 2 15's it was even louder with an ampeg fridge, I can even imagine running 4 of those at once! I just hope nothing ever happens to that transformer thats in it, I imagine i wont be cheap to replace!

Count Bassie · #**658** 01-12-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn35016

Yeah its wierd to feel like you have limitless power.

Seriously ive ran a marshall out of the room with this thing and these 2 15's it was even louder with an ampeg fridge, I can even imagine running 4 of those at once! I just hope nothing ever happens to that transformer thats in it, I imagine i wont be cheap to replace!

I don't bet you're headed for trouble. Dude. It's a Trace...

My name is Mudd · #**659** 01-12-2013, 07:53 PM

Only real downside to MDF is the weight, and that it has a tendency to essentially melt when wet for a long'ish period.

Count Bassie · #**660** 01-12-2013, 11:26 PM

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Only real downside to MDF is the weight, and that it has a tendency to essentially melt when wet for a long'ish period.

I try and avoid talking about those characteristics of MDF to people who have stuff made of it. It's one of the things that has caused me to actually steer clear of the 90s era Trace cabs... except the 1048 I'm getting back in a couple weeks...