Trade my Ampeg 410HLF for a 610HLF?

Fletz · #1 08-18-2011, 01:32 PM

TBers ... I need advice...

I play an Ampeg PF-500 through my Ampeg 410HLF Classic (see videos here Ampeg PF-500 Test Drive - YouTube and here ROCK BOX at Kellerstock 2011 - YouTube). Pretty happy with it. However, I have a chance to trade in my 410 get a 610HLF new for dirt cheap.

Please give me your thoughts about if this is a good idea or a bad idea. Other than it being heavier and cooler looking (honestly one of the reasons I am even considering it), is there a sonic plus or minus to it?

The deal would go down tomorrow, so please gimme comments asap.

You all rock - but you knew that!

moonbass-de · #2 08-18-2011, 01:40 PM

I would get a second 410 instead!

scottbass · #3 08-18-2011, 01:41 PM

To state the advantage in a quantitative, scientific way:

The 610 has more oomph.

scottbass · #4 08-18-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by moonbass-de

I would get a second 410 instead!

Well, yeah, but that wasn't one of the options. But, yeah.

ReDnEcK_SaMuRaI · #5 08-18-2011, 01:43 PM

610 is so much easier to wheel around

low2groove · #6 08-18-2011, 01:51 PM

More speakers equal the movement of more air. Though I would rather have another 4X10 so I don't have to lug around a bigger, heavier cab and I have the choice between 1 or 2 cabs at a gig. If the 6X10 is a steal andf your back is still in good shape go for it. It's not like you're downgrading your rig.

smgleitch · #7 08-18-2011, 02:05 PM

Something about a 610 has always been a favorite of mine. I say go for it!!!!!

Tigger Bangdang · #8 08-18-2011, 02:06 PM

do it.

Sanchez83 · #9 08-18-2011, 02:16 PM

I love my 610HLF. Except when my band mates punk out on helping me unload my gear from the van and I have to do it solo. In those situations... The 410 reigns supreme.

Fletz · #10 08-18-2011, 03:25 PM

Leaning toward the 610.

Fletz · #11 08-18-2011, 05:15 PM

Any other comments?

rodl2005 · #12 08-18-2011, 05:27 PM

I'd jump at that chance. The 610 is supposedly not quite as low freq oriented, or maybe just more even with the 2 extra 10s.
Easier to move, louder & will get your bass sound up closer to yr ears.
All good things imo.
I'd go for it, now!

Fletz · #13 08-19-2011, 04:49 AM

I love that so many people voted that they don't care.

Zooberwerx · #14 08-19-2011, 05:00 AM

I kept my 4 X 10 but still bought an 8 X 8 (roughly the same dimensions as a 6 X 10) as my "gig rig". It stays with the PA rig / trailer, rolls easily via the tilt-back design, and pretty much has the same stage footprint as the 4 X 10. I'm also 6' 4" so it's nice having the amp rack within tweaking distance.

Do it!

Riis

**cheezewiz** · #15 08-19-2011, 07:41 AM

I don't see ANY disadvantage to switching. Do it.

JimmyM · #16 08-19-2011, 11:12 AM

Ya, the 610 is a little higher in the lows than the 410, but should still have plenty down there for you.

Buster Brown · #17 08-19-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletz

Any other comments?

Sure!!

I own the 610 and (1) it's really not THAT much bigger than the 410 (it's taller, but actually skinnier than the 410) and (2) it's 3 times easier to move/haul than the 410.

I'm nearing 60 and I have no trouble whatsoever tilting it onto the tailgate of my truck and guiding into the bed. Actually quite easy. However, when loading in/out with the band we all move the gear; takes no effort at all with 2 people.

The couple of times that I have had to move a 410, it was excruciating.....I'm a little over 6'1" and the 410 was so low to the floor I literally had to bend over to move it around. Not particularly comfortable.

Hope this helps a little in your decision!!

SteveHeissner · #18 08-19-2011, 11:37 AM

Go for the 610. I own two 410's (not Ampegs, mind you) and some day I'm likely to just go the 610 route for the reasons already posted by Buster Brown.

Von Felgenhauer · #19 08-19-2011, 12:07 PM

What about all the comments that the 610 is nowhere near as good as the 410

Buster Brown · #20 08-19-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Von Felgenhauer

What about all the comments that the 610 is nowhere near as good as the 410

Well, opinions are, to me, a little like a**holes......we ALL have one and they all stink.

Comments about which one is "better" are always subjective. What you like, I may not and vice versa.

Quite frankly, I'm a little surprised that the "Berg's are BETTER!!" crowd haven't cropped up yet.....they are sure to come.

Besides, to be completely honest here, ANYONE that would buy a cab based solely on opinions here on talkbass (without personally playing as many options as possible) should be severely beaten about the head and shoulders....