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02-05-2013, 08:14 AM
| | | | Tube preamp scheme. Hello everyone! I'm in search of a good tube preamp scheme. It's assembling must not be expensive like alembic f2b or ampeg svt pro.
I will be grateful for any
help you can provide. | 
02-05-2013, 08:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tampa, Fl USA | | | Well, first thing's first. How conversant in electronics are you? This sort of undertaking can be seriously dangerous and fruitless to the uninitiated. Just a thought.
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bacon club #70 Peavey Amps Club#174 Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyM I just love when punks try to be punker than thou | | 
02-05-2013, 09:34 AM
| | | | sorry, i'm forget:
>Please note, that
it has to be easy to assemble,
because my friend-engineer will
be in charge of that. | 
02-05-2013, 12:06 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada | | | Take a look at the front end of an Ampeg B15. It's about as simple and straightforward as a pre-amp can be. If you are wanting to use this to drive a SS stereo power amp, you'll need to add a cathode follower to the output, preferably with some kind of output transformer. That should be a simple task for an engineer with a knowledge of tube electronics.
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02-05-2013, 01:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2001 Location: Orangevale, CA 95662 | | | Has anybody seen an "open source" schematic for the ultimate DIY design? | 
02-05-2013, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sanyaalwaysbass Hello everyone! I'm in search of a good tube preamp scheme. It's assembling must not be expensive like alembic f2b or ampeg svt pro.
I will be grateful for any
help you can provide. | I replied to your duplicate posting over in Pickups & Electronics.
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02-05-2013, 02:46 PM
| | Registered User Bedford guitars | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: sheffield, uk | | | check out the g9 preamp
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02-05-2013, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MAMMOTHvolume check out the g9 preamp | Link? | 
02-05-2013, 03:52 PM
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02-05-2013, 04:05 PM
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02-05-2013, 04:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nashville TN | | | The Alembic is basically a Fender preamp and tone stack, can't hardy get much simpler for a preamp. | 
02-05-2013, 05:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tampa, Fl USA | | I'm detecting english as a second language here. Where are you located? That could help us help you 
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bacon club #70 Peavey Amps Club#174 Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyM I just love when punks try to be punker than thou | | 
02-05-2013, 06:47 PM
|  | Registered User HPF Technology: Protecting the Pocket since 2007 | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Madison WI | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bgavin Has anybody seen an "open source" schematic for the ultimate DIY design? | Are you volunteering?
A nice idea might be to show a preamp build, progressively, starting with the most basic features. A couple of gain stages with a passive tone stack in the middle is about as basic as it gets. Then you can add things like midrange, DI, etc. | 
02-05-2013, 07:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tampa, Fl USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by fdeck Are you volunteering?
A nice idea might be to show a preamp build, progressively, starting with the most basic features. A couple of gain stages with a passive tone stack in the middle is about as basic as it gets. Then you can add things like midrange, DI, etc. | +1
I agree that starting with a very basic pre would be the way to go. At least starting out, you could probably get nice results with a couple gain stages, a SIMPLE eq, and cathode follower.
It would not be the most versatile device ever crafted, but you would have the ability to tweak it more to your liking, and develop a better picture of where you want to take it from there.
And you never know, a simple clean pre with minimal eq just might be your dream tone 
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bacon club #70 Peavey Amps Club#174 Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyM I just love when punks try to be punker than thou | | 
02-05-2013, 08:39 PM
| | | | A single channel Alembic F2B is about as easy a tube preamp build as you will find. And they sound great. I did one a while back and I love it. It was however my 27th amplifier or preamplifier build. Mine isn't exactly stock either--D.I. out as well as the normal output, cathode follower, a few extra switches. So do some reading, look at a LOT of pictures of finished builds to get an idea of how these things are put together. | 
02-06-2013, 08:00 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2001 Location: Orangevale, CA 95662 | | Quote:
Originally Posted by fdeck Are you volunteering?  | I wish, but I'm not at all literate in circuit design. Speakers are my thing.
I've seen a few point-to-point photos here on TB of units that are superbly constructed for ease of service.
These don't have the compromises required for mass production, i.e. surface-mount, printed circuit boards, pots soldered to boards, etc, etc.
This is not the correct forum, but I suspect somewhere there is in-depth discussion about circuit design for the ultimate bass preamp.
My SVP-Pro schematic thread got a bit of discussion going, but it did not continue.
Some of the smart design guys were chiming in as to why a particular circuit was good or bad, and what was required to improve it.
I wouldn't object to paying top dollar for a well-designed custom preamp, with full schematic, that is fully serviceable (point to point) long after the maker exits the business.
My daughter's 1985 JCM-800 is an amp like this. | 
02-06-2013, 10:15 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Columbia River Gorge, WA. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bgavin
I wouldn't object to paying top dollar for a well-designed custom preamp, with full schematic, that is fully serviceable (point to point) long after the maker exits the business.
My daughter's 1985 JCM-800 is an amp like this. |
What's your idea of top dollar Bruce? And how custom would it need to be?
Personally, I don't consider turret or terminal board construction to be functionally any better or worse than good printed circuit boards -- especially if they're wired by a beginner's hands. The '85 JCM800s used a printed circuit board, BTW. '85 is right around when Marshall started doing board-mounted pots and jacks too, so your daughter's amp is quite desirable if it's the old style build.
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02-06-2013, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sanyaalwaysbass Hello everyone! I'm in search of a good tube preamp scheme. It's assembling must not be expensive like alembic f2b or ampeg svt pro.
I will be grateful for any
help you can provide. | If you're not into the Alembic F2B then try the Fender Dual Showman 
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02-06-2013, 10:43 AM
|  | Registered User | | | | I mistook the OP's comment to read that he considered the Alembic F2B or Ampeg SVT Pro to be an example of the "must not be expensive" type.  I think you'd struggle to find a tube preamp simpler or less expensive than an F2B. Maybe with no tone controls? | 
02-06-2013, 10:46 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Central CA Coast | | | TBer Passinwind is one of the pre-amp guru's around here, he posts on different builds pretty frequently. Do a search on some of his stuff, then PM him.
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