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Old 05-29-2010, 09:19 PM
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Tweeter wattage ratings...what do they mean?

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Can one of you TB'ers help me understand wattage vs. volume for bass guitar tweeters? For example, I am considering a B&C DE35 tweeter which is recommended for as bass cab tweeter. It's rated at "50 watts continuous program power". There are other tweeters rated at much higher wattages. For example, Schroeder uses a 200 watt titanium bullet tweeter. Does the difference in wattage mean the 200 watt unit is louder? Thanks!

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Old 05-30-2010, 12:04 AM
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No, the wattage rating on ANY speaker is the amount it is rated to handle, for an extended period, without burning up. Many speakers can handle very short bursts of wattage much higher than they're rated for, but the more you do it the more you risk a burnout/blowout. So the reason Schroe uses a 200W tweeter is because it will be more resistant to burning out.

Wattage hasn't got much to do with volume directly, in either amps or cabs.
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Old 06-01-2010, 12:57 AM
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Hi.

What bongomania said.

I'm on a slow connection so I won't find You the hearing treshold /frequency chart, but let's just say that if You feed 50W into a ~106 dB sensitivity hi-freq unit through a proper cross-over, the experience may not be pleasant .

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Old 06-01-2010, 01:10 AM
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There is a scale the pertains to power requirements vs. frequency. You can use 50 watt tweeters in a 400 watt bass cab because they aren't having to handle that much power.

If it takes x amount of watt to push a freq. out at 200 hz, it takes less than that at 400, even less at 800, less at 1600, etc. By the time you get into tweeter territory, 50 watts is ok, assuming you're using your tweeter as an actual tweeter.

If it's like in most bass cabs, they're set either too low, or with not a steep enough slope, or both. Hence the single capacitor set up at 5k or 6k so it's 12db down in the 1200-1500 range or using a tweeter that's capable of lower freq's but either isn't mounted on a horn that can produce them or not taken full advantage of by cheaping out of the HPF, ie: too shallow a slope set too high instead of crossing lower/steeper. Of course that would mean having to make at least a 1st order LPF for the woofer too and that means a decent inductor and more cost.

When looking at crossover parts, you need the impedance curve of every driver being used. Your 8ohm speaker might read 15ohms at the frequency you need to cut it off at. Just buying a "8ohm" crossover isn't going to do you any good unless the drivers being used on the low side and the high side are fairly close at that particular frequency, like between 7 and 9 ohms.
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Old 06-01-2010, 07:09 AM
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Does the difference in wattage mean the 200 watt unit is louder? Thanks!

Tim C.
More likely it's Specmanship. The power density of a musical waveform is halved with each octave increase in frequency. That means what requires 1000 watts capacity at 50 Hz requires 500 watts at 100 Hz, 250 watts at 200 Hz, etc. So a tweeter rated at 50 watts is able to handle the high frequency content of a 500 watt total signal with plenty of room to spare. A tweeter that can actually handle 200 watts within its passband would be appropriate for a 2000 watt speaker system. And, as a 200 watt capacity tweeter of even fair quality is going to cost at least $100, I'd say the Schroeder tweeter rating is over-rated.
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