tweeterless 2x15

[riotorgun]

i was just wondering if a 2x15 bass cab with no tweeter/midrange driver would be useable.
http://professional.celestion.com/bass/orange/index.asp i plan on using two of those.

oops i mean the 8ohm BN15-300S

[christw]

There are plenty of 2x15's out there with no mid or high drivers. There's also a lot of work that goes into matching a cab, it's purpose, the speakers, and it's construction. Why not just buy one that's already on the market? If you find one you like besides the tweeter, remove the crossover and tweeter from the circuitry.

[Hellbastard]

Why wouldn't it? There are a lot of good 215 cab that work really well.

Trace Elliot 1528
Emperor 215

The only thing I would see as an issue is if you like a hi-fi sound, or slap a lot and want those crispy highs. But if you're looking for a 215 cab I don't think that's what you want.

[bertbassplayer]

I used to use an old Kustom Tuck and Roll 2x15 with JBL D-140Fs all the time for gigging without any issues. Got lots of compliments on it, had it until some guy bought it off me for a lot more than I paid for it.

I now have two Schroeder 1x15 cabinets that have those Neo Celestion 15's in them. They have a lot of clarity to them, I don't think it'd be an issue to not have a tweeter or high frequency driver in there.

[riotorgun]

Originally Posted by christw

There are plenty of 2x15's out there with no mid or high drivers. There's also a lot of work that goes into matching a cab, it's purpose, the speakers, and it's construction. Why not just buy one that's already on the market? If you find one you like besides the tweeter, remove the crossover and tweeter from the circuitry.

well for one i cant afford a new 2x15 cab but i can afford timber and 2 speakers,ive done the whole winISD thing an worked out a good size and porting plus i wanna actually build one,my main concern was it sounding too dull without a tweeter midrainge driver.

[Chrisk-K]

Why not just buy one that's already on the market? If you find one you like besides the tweeter, remove the crossover and tweeter from the circuitry.

+1

It's easy to remove the tweeter from the circuit and many speaker cabs come with a tweeter attenuator.

[Hellbastard]

What are you looking for in a 215? maybe you can use Greenboy's fearful plans and built yourself a fEarful 1515/66 or a cou couple of fearful 15/6.

[christw]

Originally Posted by riotorgun

well for one i cant afford a new 2x15 cab but i can afford timber and 2 speakers,ive done the whole winISD thing an worked out a good size and porting plus i wanna actually build one,my main concern was it sounding too dull without a tweeter midrainge driver.

It depends, are you used to having one? I got on without one for a long time but I've learned to love them and wouldn't want to give up the extra high end now that I'm used to it.

I second a vote for fEearful designs if you're using to having a clear top end.

[riotorgun]

Originally Posted by Hellbastard

What are you looking for in a 215? maybe you can use Greenboy's fearful plans and built yourself a fEarful 1515/66 or a cou couple of fearful 15/6.

just a louder version of my single 15 combo and have a simple build with no crossovers ect

Originally Posted by christw

It depends, are you used to having one? I got on without one for a long time but I've learned to love them and wouldn't want to give up the extra high end now that I'm used to it.

I second a vote for fEearful designs if you're using to having a clear top end.

i always turn tweeters off because of the usual deal with using lots of overdrive/distortion.
my main concern was those speakers might sound abit too dull,i like a bit of mids in my sound but not high end stuff

[Bill Whitehurst]

I agree on the fEarful design.
I'd go ahead and add the midrange and maybe the tweet, also.
You can always turn them off with a switch, to have that old school sound.

[rekesbass]

I used to own a Mesa Roadready 2x15(80's w\EV 15's) and that cab lacked no mid and upper mid bite.

[Scootbass1]

Originally Posted by rekesbass

I used to own a Mesa Roadready 2x15(80's w\EV 15's) and that cab lacked no mid and upper mid bite.

Ditto on this, I am using the Diesel version of this cabinet and am so happy with it I'm buying another one this week. I use a Pearce B2P head with channel one set for a Marshall tone overdrive, channel two set up for a fat bottomed clean tone with the channel combine and limiter/comp engaged all the time. The boogie just shines in the mids and I have yet to fart out the cabinet with low end. If I had the ambition and time I would build myself a Fearful 1515/66 or two. If I tire of the Boogies I will go with those to replace them.

[DukeLeJeune]

Those Celestion 15's have more top end than most, and I'd go with the 300 watt unit as it has more x-max than the 400-watt one. And x-max (fartout) is going to be your limiting factor as far as SPL goes.

[riotorgun]

Originally Posted by DukeLeJeune

Those Celestion 15's have more top end than most, and I'd go with the 300 watt unit as it has more x-max than the 400-watt one. And x-max (fartout) is going to be your limiting factor as far as SPL goes.

yeah the 300watters is what i was planning on getting my heads only 300watts @4ohm so having double the required wattage should let me crank it abit

[3506string]

The eminence 3015 seems to be a current favorite of single and dual 15 cab builds.

[Bassmec]

Originally Posted by 3506string

The eminence 3015 seems to be a current favorite of single and dual 15 cab builds.

Sad that I remember when Celestion loudspeakers where lovingly hand hand fettled on the slightly oily inner thigh of buxom Ipswich girls of easy virtue.
EEH Lad! Nostalgia is not like it used to be!.
PS Whatever it is, it will have been made in a land where individuality and freedom are considered decadent and wasteful.
Re-cone an old pair of drivers and save the planet. do you live near a landfill full of old loudspeaker magnets?.

[greenboy]

Is that an old CTS plummeting to its death?

[Bassmec]

Originally Posted by greenboy

Is that an old CTS plummeting to its death?

Yes fraid so old chap!, it vectored off after a collision with the mud of planet x max and a small transport, due to being formerly part of an extinct unfashionable giant constellation known as efficient 4 x 15
in the bright upper mid galaxy.

[Calaverasgrande]

EVM15L or 15b and other similar EV 15" drivers (but not the force line!) are very good at delivering the mids and the bass. I havent tried the 3015 or other recent Eminence, but most of the 15" eminence I have tried are lacking in uppper mids. The EV 15" drivers in a Mesa slot port cab (whats know as the TL606 style cab) are pretty well known for delivering the goods on up to 4k or better.
If anything the main reason to counsel against a 2x15 is not the lack of upper mid it is that they are a pain to cart around, and for the size you can often get more volume out of a bass 4x12 like Mesa, Aguilar or Bergantino's boxes.
But I keep finding myself back at 2x15" cabs a lot so....

[anonymous101511]

Originally Posted by rekesbass

I used to own a Mesa Roadready 2x15(80's w\EV 15's) and that cab lacked no mid and upper mid bite.

that's a GREAT cabinet!