Two 2x10s vs one 4x10

louiedi · #1 09-15-2010, 09:24 AM

Would playing through two 2x10 cabs sound the same as playing through one 4x10 cab? Don't know if this subject has been covered already. Opinions welcome. Thanks.

BassGreaser · #2 09-15-2010, 09:30 AM

yes it would if you put the two 2x10's side by side

louiedi · #3 09-15-2010, 09:45 AM

Do you mean not stacked? And standing up vertically?

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Originally Posted by BassGreaser

yes it would if you put the two 2x10's side by side

**jlepre** · #4 09-15-2010, 09:47 AM

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=625189&highlight=210+410
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=516362&highlight=210+410
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322252&highlight=210+410
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271292&highlight=210+410
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140107&highlight=210+410
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107617&highlight=210+410

Ain't it amazing what the search function can dig up?

louiedi · #5 09-15-2010, 09:48 AM

Wow! Thanks. I figured this wasn't a new subject.

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Originally Posted by jlepre

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=625189&highlight=210+410
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=516362&highlight=210+410
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322252&highlight=210+410
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271292&highlight=210+410
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140107&highlight=210+410
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107617&highlight=210+410

Ain't it amazing what the search function can dig up?

**jlepre** · #6 09-15-2010, 09:51 AM

Any time my friend...

louiedi · #7 09-15-2010, 10:14 AM

Thanks John I got all the input I need to make a decision from your list of threads.

Lou

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Originally Posted by jlepre

Any time my friend...

**jlepre** · #8 09-15-2010, 10:17 AM

No Problem man,

I had the same question, and decided to go the 2 210 route. For my situation, it just gives me MORE flexibility. I can get 2 8 0hm cabs, and use one for small gigs, and use both for larger situations.

That's MY decision, but yours may differ.

BassmanPaul · #9 09-15-2010, 10:22 AM

I too have standardized on the 2x10 format. I use one for rehearsal and always a pair stacked vertically for gigs. For outdoor events I use all four. I went with 4Ω cabinets as all my amplifiers are 2Ω stable.

Paul

mrpackerguy · #10 09-15-2010, 10:47 AM

You have to be carefule if each 2x10 has a tweeter as the 4x10 will only have one obviously. Even more tricky running 2 of the Acme 2x10s because then you are dealing with 2 tweeters and 2 5" woofers which can mess up the sound.

**jlepre** · #11 09-15-2010, 10:56 AM

Can't you just turn off the tweeter(s)?

Jimmy Stump · #12 09-15-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by louiedi

Would playing through two 2x10 cabs sound the same as playing through one 4x10 cab? Don't know if this subject has been covered already. Opinions welcome. Thanks.

To many, the differences are subtle, but you will get drivers and tweeters closer to your ears with a stacked 2 x 2 x 10" setup. You'll get better mids dispersion according to others, but I've never done a comparison.

The ease of moving 2 smaller 2 x 10" cabs (especially neodymium woofer cabs) compared to an awkward 4 x 10" is worth extra expense of 2 cabs. For me a 2 x 2 x 10" setup is a no-brainer, for you I can't say.

louiedi · #13 09-15-2010, 12:09 PM

I definitely like the convenience of having 2 2x10 cabs. I have an Eden 2x10XST I use for smaller gigs with an Eden WT550 and was undecided about buying an Eden 4x10XST or adding another 2x10XST for larger venues. I'm going the 2 2x10 route.

I have an Ampeg 4x10 and SVTCL that I drag to the bigger giggy gigs, but hate hauling all that weight when I might not have to.

BassmanPaul · #14 09-15-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mrpackerguy

You have to be carefule if each 2x10 has a tweeter as the 4x10 will only have one obviously. Even more tricky running 2 of the Acme 2x10s because then you are dealing with 2 tweeters and 2 5" woofers which can mess up the sound.

The only tricky part of stacking a pair of Acme B2s is lifting one on top of the other! They work perfectly in a vertical stack and I've been running mine this way for more than a decade.

Paul

BigOldHarry · #15 09-15-2010, 01:06 PM

I love my 2x10"s

I nearly loved my 4x10 - but it's a hassle to schlep!

jjk2007 · #16 09-15-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jlepre

No Problem man,

I had the same question, and decided to go the 2 210 route. For my situation, it just gives me MORE flexibility. I can get 2 8 0hm cabs, and use one for small gigs, and use both for larger situations.

That's MY decision, but yours may differ.

+1

BassmanPaul · #17 09-15-2010, 01:26 PM

The beauty of a pair of 2x10s is that stacked they take up the same stage footprint as one. I personally would never play a gig with just one. Having the pair brings the top cabinet much closer to the ears so you can hear it better. Having two on my dolly is still the same number of trips from the van as compared with one. Running with a pair also give you more leeway if things start to get a little loud as the evening wears on and the folks get tipsy.

Paul

Crabby · #18 09-15-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by louiedi

I definitely like the convenience of having 2 2x10 cabs. I have an Eden 2x10XST I use for smaller gigs with an Eden WT550 and was undecided about buying an Eden 4x10XST or adding another 2x10XST for larger venues. I'm going the 2 2x10 route.

I have an Ampeg 4x10 and SVTCL that I drag to the bigger giggy gigs, but hate hauling all that weight when I might not have to.

I ran an Eden 210XLT on top of my 210XST for years and it was absolutely killer. The two cabs balanced each other out perfectly and the tone was huge. I also owned a 410 XLT 4 ohm cab and in a side by side comparison, the 210 stack killed the 410 for overall punch, volume and deep low end. If you already have the XST, an XLT cab will fill out all the growly sweet mids that are missing in the XST cab. I was never happy with the tone of either cab by themselves but blended together, sounded fantastic. TheXST cab is too scooped to my ears and the XLT is a bit too aggressive in the mids.

**ExaltBass** · #19 09-15-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crabby

I ran an Eden 210XLT on top of my 210XST for years and it was absolutely killer. The two cabs balanced each other out perfectly and the tone was huge. I also owned a 410 XLT 4 ohm cab and in a side by side comparison, the 210 stack killed the 410 for overall punch, volume and deep low end. If you already have the XST, an XLT cab will fill out all the growly sweet mids that are missing in the XST cab. I was never happy with the tone of either cab by themselves but blended together, sounded fantastic. TheXST cab is too scooped to my ears and the XLT is a bit too aggressive in the mids.

Agree! The XLT/XST cabs make a great stack.

louiedi · #20 09-15-2010, 01:58 PM

Yeow! Looks impressive too! Do you keep both tweeter tweeting?

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Originally Posted by ExaltBass

Agree! The XLT/XST cabs make a great stack.