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Old 04-21-2011, 09:04 AM
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is this the typical stingray and GK sound?(video with Flea)

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well.....a rather popular video
I believe lots of you have seen this.
What I wanna know is, is that a GK sound??
I play a stingray, and I definitely want that tone!!!!!!!
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What I wanna know is, is that a GK sound??
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I can get exactly the same result with my JBass loaded bass and Ashdown head. It's in the technique, not the gear.
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Sorry, but I don't really believe that you can get a stingray tone from a J bass. They are too different.
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:19 PM
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He is using mesa boogie in that video
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He is using mesa boogie in that video
Was about to say, that doesn't sound like a GK to me. GK's from that era are extremely bright and deep! At least in my experience.
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:23 PM
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YouTube - Slap Sound stingray vs jazz bass with Frudua B600 head

Can you tell which one is the Stingray vs. the Jazz without looking? That is not a rhetorical question, just curious.
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YouTube - Slap Sound stingray vs jazz bass with Frudua B600 head

Can you tell which one is the Stingray vs. the Jazz without looking? That is not a rhetorical question, just curious.
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YouTube - Slap Sound stingray vs jazz bass with Frudua B600 head

Can you tell which one is the Stingray vs. the Jazz without looking? That is not a rhetorical question, just curious.
Difficult -- at least in the parts I was comparing, the Stingray was played with the "Slap" control on, and with the Jazz Bass, both "Slap" and "B-string" controls were on. Can't say what was bass and what was EQ.
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Dude in the video looks like a troll doll with mutton chops.

Yes, they sound different to me, but I think you would not hear the difference in a live setting.
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:51 PM
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YouTube - Slap Sound stingray vs jazz bass with Frudua B600 head

Can you tell which one is the Stingray vs. the Jazz without looking? That is not a rhetorical question, just curious.
I think its very easy to tell.

"Geddy Lee is a pick player"- Reviewer must be a guitarist.
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Big thing to note, I didn't ask if you could tell them apart, I asked if you could tell which one was the Stingray.

Me, I couldn't, but I could tell the difference. Point is, eq is a huge factor in this situation and slap is a very technique, string, and eq heavy discipline.

I'd say technique, then strings will make so much more difference than the bass you're playing than anything. Hell, the *setup* of the bass will probably make more difference than the bass itself (which pup you use, how high the pole pieces are, how high the action is).

Just my two pence.
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:57 PM
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Two Stingray slap videos:
YouTube - MUSICMAN StingRay slap bass

YouTube - Louis Johnson - bass slap lesson

Note the huge differences in technique and sound.

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and another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u327Gp3ipNk

annnd a jazz bass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEHRwOCUgHU


Interesting stuff.
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Sorry, but I don't really believe that you can get a stingray tone from a J bass. They are too different.
I didn't say it was a JBass, just JBass pickups. But at any rate I can get that tone, or a half dozen others, purely with the hands. Good gear helps, but the right technique is a necessity.
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Old 04-21-2011, 04:32 PM
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Was about to say, that doesn't sound like a GK to me. GK's from that era are extremely bright and deep! At least in my experience.
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YouTube - Slap Sound stingray vs jazz bass with Frudua B600 head

Can you tell which one is the Stingray vs. the Jazz without looking? That is not a rhetorical question, just curious.
DEFINITELY Boogie Diesel-series roadready cabs, but from 2:20-2:26, doesn't that look like a rack of RB800s?
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:12 AM
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I didn't say it was a JBass, just JBass pickups. But at any rate I can get that tone, or a half dozen others, purely with the hands. Good gear helps, but the right technique is a necessity.
I totally agree that technique is important.
And I have to admit that from the video above, stingray and Jbass can produce similar sound.
But whatever, as a Stingray player, I still have to claim that you will never sound like me with your evil Jbass pickups.

I think I'll check some Mesa Boogie stuff, thanks guys.
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Sorry, but I don't really believe that you can get a stingray tone from a J bass. They are too different.
+1.

I have even gone to the extent of adding coil taps to my Sabre to try and get jazz tones from it. It still sounds like a Sabre/Ray.
...and let me add.... I've spent 17 years trying different techniques + EQ settings. Not ALL tone is in the fingers.
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:43 AM
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Not ALL tone is in the fingers.
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Allthough I have plenty of chops and technique, I can't get a typical Jazzbass sound out of a Stingray. But, I can get both on my Ibanez RD500
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:14 AM
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I think its very easy to tell.

"Geddy Lee is a pick player"- Reviewer must be a guitarist.
I wondered about the same thing. I'd say the guy just doesn't care for Rush as he is a UK session player Dave Marks and a pretty capable guy even though it really doesn't show in that video.

About the jazz/ray thing, those basses do sound very differend.
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:17 AM
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+1.

I have even gone to the extent of adding coil taps to my Sabre to try and get jazz tones from it. It still sounds like a Sabre/Ray.
...and let me add.... I've spent 17 years trying different techniques + EQ settings. Not ALL tone is in the fingers.
That's another story. The dual coil Sting Ray pickups don't have the highs of the single coil JBass (mine are EMG, BTW). You can add some highs with EQ, but additive EQ in the high end can only do so much. It's very easy to cut highs and boost lows with single coils to get a sound approximating buckers. My only complaint with single coils is the noise, but my EMGs have no problems there.
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Old 04-22-2011, 01:39 PM
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hey guys,
another question arises, if it's a mesa boogie head, then it's a tube sound??!!
I always thought I better get a ss amp to pair with my stingray, if the tight tone like this is what i am after.
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