Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Amps [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 12-13-2012, 09:26 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Using a bass amp for 6 String EADGCF?

Hello fellow TB members i just have a question with some back story preceding it:

So last tuesday i played in my jazz ensembles concert and my classmates honors recital. So it all goes fine (first concert using an upright and electric! ) until the last song which was herbie hancocks, butterfly. So i was using my newly strung 6 string (with a 7 string set, minus the low B) and i figured, it'd be cool to do some chording up in the higher register now, but it didn't seem to have the same...oomph as my lower register so i stayed lower from there but i figured it'd be worth asking a few questions.

1. Should i be using a bass amp, considering my new found range (because its jazz/fusion i'll be soloing therefore finding use in the guitarish range)? If not, then maybe a keyboard amp would be better?

2.If i do use the bass amp, should i maybe EQ it differently for both my lows and highs?
__________________
Rhode Island Bass Player #34
  #2  
Old 12-13-2012, 09:45 PM
MysticMichael's Avatar
Hip No Ties
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New York, NY
Send a message via ICQ to MysticMichael Send a message via AIM to MysticMichael
Supporting Member
What you've experienced is a natural characteristic of the instrument: the high notes are naturally thinner-sounding than the low notes. There's nothing about it that necessitates transitioning to a guitar rig or a keyboard rig. A bass rig should be able to handle those frequencies just fine - IF you have the right kind of bass rig.

IMO, you're going to want/need a relatively hi-fi amp, plus a high-quality two-way (woofer + midrange) or three-way (woofer+midrange+tweeter) cab(s), which includes a professional-quality crossover.

Then, adjust your EQ and/or your technique accordingly, and you're on your way...

MM
__________________
"If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is: infinite."

— William Blake
  #3  
Old 12-13-2012, 10:11 PM
JimmyM's Avatar
Registered User

Endorsing: Ampeg
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Apopka, FL
Supporting Member
Playing on the higher frets will add some fatness to your notes. That's why you'll see a lot of lead guitarists playing notes they could play on the lower frets up high. But yeah, there does come a point with extended range basses where they cease to act as a bass, and it's only natural that you're not going to get the bottom end out of your highest notes as your lowest because the content just isn't there.
__________________
Ampeg Portaflex Club #1
  #4  
Old 12-14-2012, 03:10 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Mount Vernon, WA
The problem with higher/thinner strings on bass is the loss in mass. That is why you lose the bass string character. To get by this you may want to look into balanced tension sets from someone like circle k. These usually have a little bit lighter guages for the A, D, and G strings. This makes the physical mass more progressive as you get to the smaller strings with the sound following that characteristic.

The second remedy would be to raise the treble side of the pickups a bit and lower the bass side to balance the sound.

As for amps, there is no need to look for anything different. Most modern cabs will have plenty response for extended ranges. Just make sure in your eq that you are not scooping the mids as this will cut the fundemental and first harmonic of that higher register. You may need to add a bit of upper mid in the 2-4k region to add presence to those higher notes as well.
__________________
Zon Legacy Elite 6, Aguilar DB680/DB728, Mesa Powerhouse 112.
  #5  
Old 12-14-2012, 04:36 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by winegamd View Post
As for amps, there is no need to look for anything different. Most modern cabs will have plenty response for extended ranges. Just make sure in your eq that you are not scooping the mids as this will cut the fundemental and first harmonic of that higher register. You may need to add a bit of upper mid in the 2-4k region to add presence to those higher notes as well.
+1.
I practice by playing full range music through my bass rig. It just sounds fine, which surprised me at first.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Visit TalkBass on Facebook   Download our iOS app   Download our Android app

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:37 AM.




© 2012 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar too? Visit TalkGuitar.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.