Using the preamp of an MBFusion for an MB500 at the same time?

dave88 · #1 02-18-2011, 12:37 PM

So I was thinking about getting a mono 1/4" Y-cable and running the send on my Fusion into both the Return of the Fusion and the Return of my MB500, making it essentially 2 Fusions...any thoughts?

Also I was thinking about using said Y-cable to just run into both amps at the same time. I've done the stereo Y-cable two-amp thing with a Ric before, but I was worried that it might be possible to mess something up doing it in mono from the same pickup.

Both scenarios involve separate cabs of course.

Thanks,
Dave

**crustychef** · #2 02-18-2011, 01:25 PM

I was think about this recently too. I don't have a MB500 yet just the MBFusion. I was thinking of this because I was debating on getting a MB500 for back up/biamping or getting the MB800 for larger venues and us it with my Tone Hammer for serious overdiven tone. I guess I could biamp the MB800 and MB fusion as well but that is more juice than I need. FWI I've never biamped before and was just thinking of learning about it.

GrowlerBox · #3 02-18-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by crustychef

I was think about this recently too. I don't have a MB500 yet just the MBFusion. I was thinking of this because I was debating on getting a MB500 for back up/biamping or getting the MB800 for larger venues and us it with my Tone Hammer for serious overdiven tone. I guess I could biamp the MB800 and MB fusion as well but that is more juice than I need. FWI I've never biamped before and was just thinking of learning about it.

That's not biamping, that's dual-amping. Not just being picky; you'll be searching for the wrong stuff if you go looking for information on the former with your application in mind.

PurpleDrank · #4 02-18-2011, 01:42 PM

Dave, from what you describe, I don't think you need a y-cable at all. Just run a standard 1/4" cable from the send on the Fusion to the return of the 500 to slave it. The Fusion will still work as normal without anything running into the effects return. From their manual for the Fusion "The signal to the power amp
is not interrupted when the send jack is used."

Try it and

dave88 · #5 02-18-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PurpleDrank

Dave, from what you describe, I don't think you need a y-cable at all. Just run a standard 1/4" cable from the send on the Fusion to the return of the 500 to slave it. The Fusion will still work as normal without anything running into the effects return. From their manual for the Fusion "The signal to the power amp
is not interrupted when the send jack is used."

Try it and

Be back in ten minutes

dave88 · #6 02-18-2011, 01:49 PM

Looking at the manual, haven't seen that yet, but I can switch the headphone out to be a line out...I wonder if that will mute it?

Wes Whitmore · #7 02-18-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PurpleDrank

Dave, from what you describe, I don't think you need a y-cable at all. Just run a standard 1/4" cable from the send on the Fusion to the return of the 500 to slave it. The Fusion will still work as normal without anything running into the effects return. From their manual for the Fusion "The signal to the power amp
is not interrupted when the send jack is used."

Try it and

This is how to do it (with a 6" instrument cable), and the fusion mute will mute both amps. Tuner out of the fusion still works. DI still works. Using the return of the 500 only also bypasses the 500s preamp, so you basically are getting 2 500 watt amps running the same signal. You will be able to set the boost and volume of each amp separately since the boost and final volume are post EQ (post what the fusion is sending to the 500) on these units. Set the boost the same (or off) if you want them to sound the same. Tweek the volume for different cabinet volumes, etc. Once you have these set, you can control the volume of the whole system with the fusions master volume knob.
Wes

dave88 · #8 02-18-2011, 02:12 PM

Yup, works great. I'm going to use a 2-space rack bag with them both mounted. For smaller/medium gigs I have a backup sitting right there, for larger gigs I'll use them both with 2 Schroeder 15L's. Thanks guys.

Anybody know where to get a pair of rack ears cheap?
Has GK made black ears for the Fusion?

Wes Whitmore · #9 02-18-2011, 02:18 PM

Those will be custom unless you get GKs ears.

rag · #10 02-18-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dave88

Yup, works great. I'm going to use a 2-space rack bag with them both mounted. For smaller/medium gigs I have a backup sitting right there, for larger gigs I'll use them both with 2 Schroeder 15L's. Thanks guys.

Anybody know where to get a pair of rack ears cheap?
Has GK made black ears for the Fusion?

Yes.

dave88 · #11 02-18-2011, 02:44 PM

Nice, I thought the Fusion was looking pretty odd with the silver ears I have on it now. Are they on the website now?

Tunaman · #12 02-18-2011, 04:10 PM

The fusion that much different than the MB500 in your opinion?

dave88 · #13 02-18-2011, 04:14 PM

Yes, the 500 works great with active and modern basses but sounds really flat/plastic-y with say a Jazz or a Precision bass. The Fusion is my new favorite amp (that isn't all tube). It sounds great with old basses and you've got the second channel to kick in an overdrive/distorted tone.

**crustychef** · #14 02-20-2011, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GrowlerBox

That's not biamping, that's dual-amping. Not just being picky; you'll be searching for the wrong stuff if you go looking for information on the former with your application in mind.

Thanks, good to know. I am not the most tech savvy person. Setting my alarm clock proves to be challenging at times. So this is like brain surgery to me.