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03-28-2011, 09:20 PM
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YouTube - Tech 21 VT Bass 1969 and Ampeg SVT
I actually prefer the VT Bass as its tad thicker.
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03-28-2011, 09:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Portland, OR | | | Very well presented. I have to agree that the VT had a lil' more booty, however I would imagine that the "feel" of the SVT may be a little more pleasing to play. Was the difference in the room as noticeable as the sound through the mic?
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03-28-2011, 09:44 PM
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Endorsing Artist: Maxon (Godlyke), Dava Control | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maryland | | | Both tones were too "loose" for me. Tighten that bottom end up. Also, who knows what age of the tubes, filter caps, etc. etc. in the SVT. My '78 and my '69 have new filter caps, new power tubes and are well-tuned monsters that destroy. They'd stomp all over that VT wannabe.
Sorry, I throw down for my SVT's!
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03-28-2011, 09:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas | | | There's nothing like the feel of an SVT/810.
And, I can promise there isn't a dimes difference in the VT head and the VT pedal with any solidstate power amp.
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03-28-2011, 11:09 PM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | listen, you can make any amp sound great, and you can make it suck. note the settings they used on the svt...channel 2, nooned, with both ultra switches on. meanwhile the vt is also nooned. channel 2 of the svt is a bright channel already, and turning on both ultra switches would undoubtedly result in that sound, with a lot of treble and not so much low end by comparison. but flat on the vt gets you the sound you heard with a lot more bottom and mids along with a treble boost that sounds a lot like the ultra hi switch in. not really a fair comparison if they're trying to tell us that the vt amp is better than an svt 
however, it darn sure has a lot of ampeg character to it, and i use one all the time, even if i trot out the big guns. got no need for the amp, but the pedal and vt deluxe are great so i'm not offended that torin liked it better in this clip but i could cut a clip tomorrow that would give you guys the opposite opinion.
i'm not going to, though.
anyway, good idea to compare the two...bad idea to set the svt up for failure. really now!
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03-28-2011, 11:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver | | | Yeah, EQ may account for a lot of the differences, especially with both ultra switches thrown on. |
03-28-2011, 11:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas | | | I Swear JIMMY WILL NEVER BE OFFENDED BY MY BASS!
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03-28-2011, 11:36 PM
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03-28-2011, 11:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas | | | damn, didn't realize there was a difference.......
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03-28-2011, 11:43 PM
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03-28-2011, 11:44 PM
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03-29-2011, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM  listen, you can make any amp sound great, and you can make it suck. note the settings they used on the svt...channel 2, nooned, with both ultra switches on. meanwhile the vt is also nooned. channel 2 of the svt is a bright channel already, and turning on both ultra switches would undoubtedly result in that sound, with a lot of treble and not so much low end by comparison. but flat on the vt gets you the sound you heard with a lot more bottom and mids along with a treble boost that sounds a lot like the ultra hi switch in. not really a fair comparison if they're trying to tell us that the vt amp is better than an svt
however, it darn sure has a lot of ampeg character to it, and i use one all the time, even if i trot out the big guns. got no need for the amp, but the pedal and vt deluxe are great so i'm not offended that torin liked it better in this clip but i could cut a clip tomorrow that would give you guys the opposite opinion.
i'm not going to, though.
anyway, good idea to compare the two...bad idea to set the svt up for failure. really now! | Well in all honesty, I did not know that they had rigged the SVT so that it would sound worse. They should have set them dead flat. If for whatever reason that still wouldn't work, well then I guess the comparison is meaningless.
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03-29-2011, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ::::BASSIST:::: Well in all honesty, I did not know that they had rigged the SVT so that it would sound worst. They should have set them dead flat. If for whatever reason that still wouldn't work, well then I guess the comparison is meaningless. | dead flat isn't a good comparison either. the svt has an oddball eq in channel 1 where there's a big low mid hump and a gradual tapering off of everything else, whereas the vt has what you heard in the clip. what would have been is if they tried to match the tones of whatever they dial up on the svt. it's possible...i've done it.
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03-29-2011, 02:59 AM
| | | | I think the price will be the key here. The VT Bass 1969 might be a great alternative to an original SVT, especially if it turns out to be quite cheaper. The comparison might not be fair in the video, but the VT still sounds pretty awesome regardless.
Has anybody got an idea of how much it will cost?
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03-29-2011, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ::::BASSIST:::: If for whatever reason that still wouldn't work, well then I guess the comparison is meaningless. | It is meaningless. You can not judge the sound of a bass rig by a youtube video.  |
03-29-2011, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Plstrns There's nothing like the feel of an SVT/810. | Especially when you have to carry it.
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03-29-2011, 05:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bristol, UK | | | They need to do a rack VT preamp, ideally half rack. Plus I reckon one of those hifi type cabs would best show off the VT, like a multi driver job, rather than the much maligned 10s and 15s run full range.
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03-29-2011, 07:44 AM
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03-29-2011, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteNinja I think the price will be the key here. The VT Bass 1969 might be a great alternative to an original SVT, especially if it turns out to be quite cheaper. The comparison might not be fair in the video, but the VT still sounds pretty awesome regardless.
Has anybody got an idea of how much it will cost? |
I saw it here for $1049..: Tech 21 VT Bass 1969 Amp Head
Maybe if it were around $500(give or take)I'd get one..other than that , I'd go with the VTbass pedal and Power amp (I've heard that said before )
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03-29-2011, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Foz | What is the purpose of having input/output jacks on both front and back ?
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