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Old 06-19-2010, 06:40 PM
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Whats up guys! I have a Acoustic B100 1x15 Combo amp 100 watts, the Acoustic site says it has an "Extension Speaker" jack in the back for extension cabs, whether it be a 1x15 or 4x10, i would prefer a 4x10 but what 4x10 should i go with? by the way im just using that combination untill i can afford the head, im a broke teenager
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Well...If i was You I would be getting a new head and cab....but since i know what it is like to be broke and build a setup one piece at a time .( Thats what i did....took me 5 years but i finely got it!!) I would say Go with an SWR Goliath 410. I have beens using them for years now and i love them!! Some people dont but that just a matter of opinion...trust me you will get about 30 different suggestions time this is done and all will be different..lol I jut know what has worked for me...the are clean,clear, punchy,Low and Not to Mention...and i know it dont matter But they are One of the best looking cabs out there..IMHO!!! Best of luck.. Cheers Mate!!!~Elliot
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At $900 I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this is probably out of his price range and it is definitely too much cab for this amp. What you need is a 2X10. Cheapest decent ones out there are Carvin. If I was you, I would save my cash and get a bigger amp head.
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At $900 I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this is probably out of his price range and it is definitely too much cab for this amp. What you need is a 2X10. Cheapest decent ones out there are Carvin. If I was you, I would save my cash and get a bigger amp head.
Oh I know it is probably out of ones price range to cash out...thats why when i was low on the cash end and needed new stuff i went with 12 equal payment plans which helped out alot and i had them payed off before it was up anyways...it really helps when one is a lil bit tighter...but yes i agree he needs a new Amp more then anything else..and you are right a 210 would work great for what he does have!!
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Broke? Use what you have. It'll be fine just as a 1x15. Keep saving your money.
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Broke? Use what you have. It'll be fine just as a 1x15. Keep saving your money.

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Broke? Use what you have. It'll be fine just as a 1x15. Keep saving your money.
ive been using that for many gigs, its good but the single 15' cant do it alone :[ the power needs to be spread out a little
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GK Neo 410 or SWR Goliath.

Personally i'm biased to the Neos as I have a Neo rig



..but seeing your price, go with a GK RBX 210 or Neo 210
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Since you have only a 100 watt amp, I would suggest finding the lowest wattage rated cab. You will splitting your power in half so each cab will receive 50 watts at 4 ohms. Most medium to high range priced cabs are rated at 400 watts or more and your amp is underpowered to drive all these speakers with efficiency as you wish to do.

The acoustic 410 and 1-15 are low wattage rated cabs and will probably be best for your amp. Also having a matched cab setup will compliment your amp as well. These cabs are low priced and you might be able to find them used on ebay. Carvin and Peavey make low cost and low wattage lines of bass cabs too. Most amp companies make an affordable line of products as well like SWR and others but their name brand still carries a higher priced tag than the a fore mentioned.


I prefer 410 cabs these days (although I did use 15's and 18's years ago) because the bass response seems quicker and the low end seems to be more even. larger cabs may give you a deeper bass sound, but it takes more power to produce those low frequencies resulting in slightly less volume compared to a equivalent wattage 410 cab, plus more speakers equals more sound!

You also mentioned wanting a new head. If it is an Acoustic B600H, then I would go with the Acoustic 410 cab.

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+1 , Keep saving your money. I just traded in the Ampeg stuff I didn't need. If I had brought in Acoustic, They wouldn't have taken anything I was selling back. I got rid of an Ampeg B2re, a Micro head and a Svt450H. These heads are in demand and are re-sold by Music stores as fast as they come in. I would go to your local GC or some other chain store and see what's coming in and what's going out. this way you'll get an idea of current quality and stuff that isn't worth buying. +1 on the Goliath as well...............................
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There's no proof to the underpowering, and it's discredited as a myth. That said, I've run a 45-watt amp through a 600W Neo 212 with no issues.
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http://www.acousticamplification.com/products/b410.cfm

Acoustic's site lists their 4*10 and 1*15 cabs as applicable add-on options. Both are rated at 8 ohms. If you don't go with their options, make sure get something similar......
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There's no proof to the underpowering, and it's discredited as a myth. That said, I've run a 45-watt amp through a 600W Neo 212 with no issues.
well let's have some documented proof to this. either a web link or copy paste.

I can provide proof on what can happen if you run too large of a cab for the amplifier output. I'll let you go first since you are the negate-r.
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Old 06-19-2010, 09:30 PM
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4x10 Hartke VX Series (paper cone)..Will get the job done, but with only 100 watts, I'd get their 2x12..neat sound in the pocket. You won't have much head room with 100 watts....Ampeg 1x15 combo is nice also

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I would check in the used market, like Craigslist. I purchased an Ampeg SVT 410 HLF on there for $280. This cab was/is in pristine condition. Just make sure that the seller allows you to play through it for a little while before purchasing.
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well let's have some documented proof to this...
Here's the sticky:
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Scroll down to "Over/Underpowering Cabs".
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Old 06-20-2010, 01:19 AM
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From the Acoustic Amplification website on the B100 page..."The series extension speaker jack provides an output for an additional cabinet such as the Acoustic® B115 or B410."

The speaker jack is wired in series. This means that if you use a 4 ohm cab, the total load will be 8 ohms ....which means the amp will be putting out somewhere around 60 watts TOTAL. So each cab will see about 30 watts. An 8 ohm cab will be even worse.

I'd recommend a different solution to your volume problem.
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Craigslist + Carvin 410 = Win!

I am shocked at the prices of some of the used gear out there... Especially Carvin ( and I am a diehard Carvin fan )

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well let's have some documented proof to this. either a web link or copy paste.

I can provide proof on what can happen if you run too large of a cab for the amplifier output. I'll let you go first since you are the negate-r.
i'd like to see YOUR proof. I have run a 25w head into my old Ampeg 810 many times...both head and cab are still kicking ass. In addition, I have run very large cabs at very low volumes using higher powered heads. I'd say that totally disproves the underpowering myth.
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From the Acoustic Amplification website on the B100 page..."The series extension speaker jack provides an output for an additional cabinet such as the Acoustic® B115 or B410."

The speaker jack is wired in series. This means that if you use a 4 ohm cab, the total load will be 8 ohms ....which means the amp will be putting out somewhere around 60 watts TOTAL. So each cab will see about 30 watts. An 8 ohm cab will be even worse.

I'd recommend a different solution to your volume problem.
+1. adding a 410 to that combo is a joke. if you're going to get a 410, sell the combo and buy a separate head instead.
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