What about a Tour 450 and a GK 410MBE...?

mello_bedwetter · #1 06-30-2011, 05:28 PM

I'm wondering how a GK 410MBE would go along with a Peavey Tour 450. I'm picking up the Tour 450 Saturday. I'm looking for a light cabinet since my left shoulder is destroyed.
Right now I use a GK MB210(350 watts)and I use it with the 210MBE cabinet making it 500 watts. I was thinking of getting the 410MBE once it is available. Then I got to thinking(trouble), since I'm getting the Tour 450 and if it sounds good with the GK cabs, I'd have 2 complete "rigs" with a few options. The Peavey is 450 watts at 4 ohms and 300 watts at 8 ohms. I could use my MB210 by itself, with the 210MBE, or the 410 MBE. I'd also have the Tour 450 I could use as a 2x10 or 4x10 or use both cabs for a 6x10. I'm planning on trying the Peavey Tour 450 with my GK 210MBE and see how it sounds and go from there.
Right now I have a Peavey 300 Combo as a back up but it's like a tank and with my shoulder I can't handle it. It's hell getting old...

scottfeldstein · #2 06-30-2011, 05:49 PM

Sounds interesting. But your Peavey amp is going to run at 300w, since both of those cabs are 8 ohms. (I think I have that right.) Which leads me to wonder why you would't just use the MB210 all the time. It'll be 500w plugged into either of the two extension cabs. The biggest rig you could build with the Peavey amp would be a 300w 6x10. Same as with the GK combo + 4x10 cab, except the GK would be delivering more wattage. The smallest rig you could build with the Peavey would be a 300w 2x10, pretty much the same as the GK combo by itself.

All of which causes me to ask myself what utility you get out of owning the Peavey in the first place. Except of course as a backup amp.

mello_bedwetter · #3 06-30-2011, 05:58 PM

I must be thinking wrong. I thought the GK 210 combo runs at 350 watts at 8 ohms(by itself) and adding the 8 ohm extension cab it runs at 500 watts.
That's why I thought using one 8 ohm cab with the Peavey would run at 300 watts and using 2 of the cabs would have and output of 450 watts.
I'm picking up the Peavey used and at a pretty cheap price...that's the only reason why I'm getting it.

scottfeldstein · #4 06-30-2011, 06:06 PM

I'm just taking you at your word that the Peavey would be running 300w with an 8 ohm cab under it. IF that's so, I can't see where any Peavey config would be more powerful or more flexible than anything you could do with the MB210. Both would have a minimum rig of 300-350w through 2x10. Their maximum rigs would be 300w through 6x10s (Peavey) or 500w through 6x10s (GK).

But maybe I'm figuring this wrong.

mello_bedwetter · #5 06-30-2011, 06:19 PM

The specs say 300 watts at 8 ohms for the Peavey. So I thought 2 8 ohm cabs would bring the output to 4 ohms...I'm not sure though.
I was just figuring it would run like the GK combo. By itself the 2x10 combo runs at 350 watts and adding the 8 ohm ext cab makes it 500 watts.
The Peavey Combo 300 I have runs at 210 watts with the 4 ohm Black Widow but if I would add another 4 ohm cab to it, it would boost it to 300 watts @ 2 ohms. The 300 combo will run at 2 ohms, I don't believe the Tour does.
Now this is just me thinking as for as the Peavey/GK mixes. I'm not sure about them, I'm just asking around to see if I'm thinking right...probably not...lol.

scottfeldstein · #6 06-30-2011, 06:22 PM

A more knowledgeable person will chime in soon to set us both straight, I hope.

I'm just trying to imagine a scenario in which you'd say "And when I want a really big rig, I hook up the Peavey to..." or "When I want a mini rig I hook up the Peavey to..." And I'm not coming up with one that you can't already do with the GK. Of course you'd still have the benefit of owning two working rigs. You could leave one on the truck, one in your home. Or just have one you use and the other as a backup.

dukeisdog · #7 06-30-2011, 06:35 PM

Two 8 ohm cabs will = a 4 ohm load.

Your peavey is 450 watts at 4 ohms, and through the GK 210 and 410 it should sound monstrous.

scottfeldstein · #8 06-30-2011, 06:38 PM

That does clarify. But I'm still thinking that's the same rig you could set up with the GK combo + 4x10 cab. Similar watts, same cabs, same number of speakers. I think.

mello_bedwetter · #9 06-30-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

That does clarify. But I'm still thinking that's the same rig you could set up with the GK combo + 4x10 cab. Similar watts, same cabs, same number of speakers. I think.

I just like having 2 amps just in case. But you're right...no matter how I would match them neither would really "out-weigh" the other. Oh well, at least we got that figured out. Thanks for the input...when it comes to watts, ohms and output I can get confused.

dukeisdog · #10 06-30-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mello_bedwetter

I just like having 2 amps just in case. But you're right...no matter how I would match them neither would really "out-weigh" the other. Oh well, at least we got that figured out. Thanks for the input...when it comes to watts, ohms and output I can get confused.

No worries. I use the Peavey Tour 700 with an Avatar 212 and this setup is killer. You're gonna love the head. Really good eq section.

mello_bedwetter · #11 06-30-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dukeisdog

No worries. I use the Peavey Tour 700 with an Avatar 212 and this setup is killer. You're gonna love the head. Really good eq section.

Thanks for the help dukeisdog.

mello_bedwetter · #12 07-02-2011, 02:03 PM

I picked up the Tour 450 today. It sounds pretty good through the 210MBE. Wednesday the 410MBE should be here...I'll see what it sounds like with 6 10's going. I'll be able to test out the GK MB210 with the 4x10 too.

scottfeldstein · #13 07-02-2011, 02:26 PM

I'm really interested in your experience with the 210MBE versus the 410MBE. I have the 210 and I'm mulling over trading it in for the 4.

mello_bedwetter · #14 07-02-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

I'm really interested in your experience with the 210MBE versus the 410MBE. I have the 210 and I'm mulling over trading it in for the 4.

I'll keep you posted.

mello_bedwetter · #15 07-08-2011, 10:49 PM

I got to try out the Tour 450 along with the 410MBE. With the 4x10 the amp's output is 300 watts. I ran it "flat" the whole time because I haven't really messed with the EQ much. I do know if you change the EQ settings and hit "activate" it really kicks in...like a big boost. So far I'm happy with it. Using the Tour 450 with the 410MBE has a different sound than when I use the MB210 combo with my 210MBE and I have to admit...I like the sound even though I'm only driving 300 watts with the Peavey/4x10 verses 500 watts with the GK combo with the 2x10 cab. I'm not sure when I'll get to try the combo with the 4x10. I left my amp and cab for practice next week. Overall I think the Tour 450 and GK 410MBE will make a nice little 1/2 stack.