What brand of amps isn't voiced for rock but for a cleaner sound and funk?

[FunkyMan]

Well, I'm sure there is no concrete answer for this, but i want to hear from you.

1 month ago I bought a Eden Nemesis RS320 4x10 combo, (RS stands for Rock Star series, probably this means that the amp is voiced for rock?) and frankly I'm not happy with their sound.. My Playing is mostly Funk jazz Fusion stuff.

My aspirations have always been to get a tone like Richard Bona, Matt Garrison etc.. before anyone thinks the problem could be the bass: My basses are Ibanez BTB 675, Warwick Streamer Jazzman, and a custom luthier bass with Nordstrand Dual Coils

I will sell it, already decided on a Hartke HX410 HyDrive Cab, and I've been thinking about buying this head:

The link: http://www.carvinguitars.com/product...product=BX1500

But it says that the power amp works with 12AX7 tubes, sorry guys i don't have knowledge on tube amps.. this means somewhat that there will be a kind of saturated sound or something? i should look for a solid state head instead?

Thankyou

[ryognbass]

I would look into SWR. always a good bet all across the board I find. Aguilar amps are also incredibly versatile.

[bass4worship]

I played thought a GK 600 with a GB 410 cab it was smoking. I mean it was the perfect tone for Funk. Nice and tight sounding.

[metallicafan18]

Gallien-Krueger or Aguilar I would say.

[JimmyM]

you can play any type of music on any amp.

[PDGood]

GK's are super clean, if that's the goal. But to my ears they are the opposite of warm - very good for rock because they are so bright, but a bit too sterile if you want a warmer tone. I think of jazz/funk as warmer tones, but if you don't then GK is perfect. I like the Little Mark for a thick, modern tone and Eden for something between the LM and GK.

[calypsocoral302]

Originally Posted by FunkyMan

I will sell it, already decided on a Hartke HX410 HyDrive Cab, and I've been thinking about buying this head:

The link: http://www.carvinguitars.com/product...product=BX1500

But it says that the power amp works with 12AX7 tubes, sorry guys i don't have knowledge on tube amps.. this means somewhat that there will be a kind of saturated sound or something? i should look for a solid state head instead?

Hi FunkyMan,

The Carvin is NOT a tube amp-- there is a single 12AX7 Pre-amp tube, but the power section is Class D solid-state. I think there is even a button on the back of the amp that turns the tube off, thus switching to FET for the pre-amp.

In addition, tube-driven pre-amps in Carvin amps usually just "warm up" the sound a bit-- I have never heard a Carvin produce a convincing Overdrive (which would be useless to a jazz/fusion/funk guy anyway).

With the various EQ options, the on-board compressor, and the sheer power that amp pumps out, it should more than fit the bill for a funk bassist.

Failing that, I will also echo the recommendations from others for SWR, Aguilar, and Gallien-Krueger (Flea is one of their most long-standing endorsers). You could also check into Eden Electronics, which is the parent company of your Nemesis amp (Nemesis was their "budget" line)-- I don't think the two are voiced alike by any means, and they are renowned for their build quality.

[bass4worship]

Put your money into a good cab.. IMO

[FunkyMan]

Originally Posted by calypsocoral302

Hi FunkyMan,

The Carvin is NOT a tube amp-- there is a single 12AX7 Pre-amp tube, but the power section is Class D solid-state. I think there is even a button on the back of the amp that turns the tube off, thus switching to FET for the pre-amp.

In addition, tube-driven pre-amps in Carvin amps usually just "warm up" the sound a bit-- I have never heard a Carvin produce a convincing Overdrive (which would be useless to a jazz/fusion/funk guy anyway).

With the various EQ options, the on-board compressor, and the sheer power that amp pumps out, it should more than fit the bill for a funk bassist.

Failing that, I will also echo the recommendations from others for SWR, Aguilar, and Gallien-Krueger (Flea is one of their most long-standing endorsers). You could also check into Eden Electronics, which is the parent company of your Nemesis amp (Nemesis was their "budget" line)-- I don't think the two are voiced alike by any means, and they are renowned for their build quality.

Wow Bro thanyou, nice response, so based on my descriptions, you recommend this Carvin head?

[FunkyMan]

Originally Posted by bass4worship

Put your money into a good cab.. IMO

Thanks, you think hartke isn't a good option for my goals?

[plangentmusic]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

you can play any type of music on any amp.

+1.

[FunkyMan]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

you can play any type of music on any amp.

That's subjective IMO I'd be afraid to try to play modern funk into an old fender bassman or ampeg

[Lesfunk]

I've been a fan of EBS gear for a long time. No cheap but worth it IMO

[MysticMichael]

Originally Posted by FunkyMan

Well, I'm sure there is no concrete answer for this, but i want to hear from you.

1 month ago I bought a Eden Nemesis RS320 4x10 combo, (RS stands for Rock Star series, probably this means that the amp is voiced for rock?) and frankly I'm not happy with their sound.. My Playing is mostly Funk jazz Fusion stuff.

I used to own the predecessor to the RS320 combo - the NC410 (essentially the same unit, but less powerful than the RS320). And with all due respect, there isn't anything you want or need to do, that this amp can't handle. It's warm enough for jazz and fusion, yet clean enough for straight up funk. If anything, it's probably even better for these particular genres that it is for rock - since it's doesn't particularly "growl" or "grunt", like GK or Ampeg, respectively.

That said, if you're certain that the problem is in your gear - and not in your settings or your hands - then GK would be a great way to go. Very clean, and will funk your socks off (with the right settings, of course).

Should you invest in a GK amp, you might as well get a GK cab or two. Loud, clean, aggressive, lots of attitude - at a very reasonable price.

MM

[canadian*eh]

Like some of My TB Er's Before me have said you can make just about any amp sound anyway you want for any kinda of music you want to play.... That being said I am a GK Man...Been using their heads for over 12 years and am playing in a Funk jazz Fusion/Motown kinda of band...and my 1001rb II Is a Very Clean, Very Punchy and Very Loud!! Awesome for the kinda of style i play. That amp gives me the sound i am after and trust me everyone in my band digs it!!One Awesome Head!! Give it a try am sure you wont be disappointed!! All The best!! Cheers Mate!!~Elliot

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by FunkyMan

That's subjective IMO I'd be afraid to try to play modern funk into an old fender bassman or ampeg

pussy.



oh, calm down, just kidding! but a lot of modern funk is played on svt's these days. maybe not the 6-string guys who like the tweeters up loud, but you hear a lot more old school bass tones in modern funk nowadays. i can dig if that's not what you're looking for, but chances are you'd still be able to pull it off and find a tone that works for you.

[Mingo Sanders]

Originally Posted by FunkyMan

Thanks, you think hartke isn't a good option for my goals?

You have to play theHartke cab, and you have to play other cabs. Only then can you decide. The cab is way more important than the amp in terms of your sound.

[calypsocoral302]

Originally Posted by FunkyMan

Wow Bro thanyou, nice response, so based on my descriptions, you recommend this Carvin head?

No prob, man!

If all else fails, Carvin has a good return policy-- you have two weeks (or thereabouts) to try it and decide if you like it.

But, from what I've seen (and heard), I don't see any big, glaring reason as to why it wouldn't be able to suit your style.

Just make sure you fully read and understand the manual. Take plenty of time to experiment. I find that my practice sessions go a lot faster when I'm trying new gear!

[Stumbo]

Originally Posted by FunkyMan

I bought a Eden Nemesis RS320 4x10 combo...

But it says that the power amp works with 12AX7 tubes, sorry guys i don't have knowledge on tube amps.. this means somewhat that there will be a kind of saturated sound or something? i should look for a solid state head instead?

If you haven't already, check out the manual here: http://www.eden-electronics.com/info...2005222006.pdf

You can turn the tube feature "Edge" off by turning the knob all the way to the left.

In the manual, it's pretty much dedicated to a step-by-step process of getting "your sound".

There's lots of E.Q involved, etc. So studying the manual is pretty important. Maybe there's a TB'r in your area that can help you out with getting your "tone" dialed in.

Probably the most important thing in the manual: you need to add a 8 ohm extension cab to get the 320 RMS output.

[will33]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

you can play any type of music on any amp.

The smartest thing that's been said so far.