what cab to pair with my Markbass 1x12?

supermaxx · #1 10-17-2011, 09:48 PM

I just picked up a CMD121p and I'm now looking for an extension cab to run when I need it. I'm not sure whether I should go for a 1x15, 2x10, or just another 1x12. I don't have a lot of experience when it comes to how these different cabs sound as I've primarily been a guitar player until several years ago.

I mostly play soul/rock/funk, use a Jazz bass (also sometimes a P/J), and would like to stick with a Neo cab. Any opinions/advice is appreciated.

Joe Louvar · #2 10-17-2011, 10:43 PM

Markbass recommends the “NEW YORK 121” ext cabinet for the CMD121p combo.
Markbass - New York 121

SJan3 · #3 10-17-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Louvar

Markbass recommends the “NEW YORK 121” ext cabinet for the CMD121p combo.
Markbass - New York 121

+1. I'd stay with another 1x12 like the New York 121.

loopee · #4 10-18-2011, 12:05 AM

the NY121 all the way

alexofc69 · #5 10-18-2011, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Louvar

Markbass recommends the “NEW YORK 121” ext cabinet for the CMD121p combo.
Markbass - New York 121

I agree. I ran two 121H travellers with my LMII and it was perfect!

Russell L · #6 10-18-2011, 05:46 AM

Yeah, stay with either a NY121 or a 121H cab. I ran a 151P cab with my 121H combo, but the 12 can't keep up with the 15, so I always had to hold back. Sounded ok, but the 12 could run out of excursion before the 15 would. The 121H cab will give you more bottom than the NY121, but, of course, it's bigger and heavier, but not a burden by any means. See if you can find either in a store to try out. You'll be very pleased with how your rig sounds with two speakers and 500w.

**JxBass** · #7 10-18-2011, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Louvar

Markbass recommends the “NEW YORK 121” ext cabinet for the CMD121p combo.
Markbass - New York 121

+1. Agreed!

AMJBASS · #8 10-18-2011, 07:52 AM

I would also recommend this cabinet. I have the same rig(Mini CMD121P, NY112), and its a killer sounding combination. Light weight too.

leegreenman · #9 10-18-2011, 07:57 AM

I'm looking to make the same move in the near future. Was hoping to find a slightly cheaper cab alternative, but I'm probably just going to hold off till I have the cash for the NY112.

MODELL · #10 10-18-2011, 08:55 AM

I chose the 121H Traveler after playing with my combo attached to both. It is set-up to be placed 'horizontal' when using 2, but on the Markbass site it says the newer versions are made to also go with the 121P Combo Markbass - Traveler 121H. I actually set mine up vertically and the combo fits perfectly on top with room behind it to adjust the tweeter on the 121H. When comparing both at CG (local store had a used one of each), I just felt that with the 121H Traveler the rig sounded a bit fuller. It is also very light and I can carry the combo in one hand and the Traveler in the other; albiet a bit bulky, it's still doable.

tappingtrance · #11 10-18-2011, 11:05 AM

I have the setup with the NY and it sounds great. However I will tell you the 300 watts through ther cmd121 is a better sound than the 500 through both. The additional cab combinatrion starts to sound boxy to me.

supermaxx · #12 10-18-2011, 11:18 AM

Everyone seems to like another Markbass 1x12. Any opinions on a 2x10? I've gotten good sound whenever I've played a rig with 10s and have had people I trust recommend them. Would it sound weird with a 12 too?

I'd also be interested in something more affordable than the Markbass stuff. How are the GK Neo cabs?

billfitzmaurice · #13 10-18-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by supermaxx

Everyone seems to like another Markbass 1x12. Any opinions on a 2x10? I've gotten good sound whenever I've played a rig with 10s and have had people I trust recommend them. Would it sound weird with a 12 too?

I'd also be interested in something more affordable than the Markbass stuff. How are the GK Neo cabs?

The problem with mixing cabs is that the result cannot be predicted. Usually there's no benefit to it, and more often than not it doesn't work as well as matched cabs.
If you like the tone of what you have but it doesn't go loud enough buy another. If you don't like the tone of what you have get something you do like, and get two of those if you need it for adequate output.

MODELL · #14 10-18-2011, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

The problem with mixing cabs is that the result cannot be predicted. Usually there's no benefit to it, and more often than not it doesn't work as well as matched cabs.
If you like the tone of what you have but it doesn't go loud enough buy another. If you don't like the tone of what you have get something you do like, and get two of those if you need it for adequate output.

Bill, for my own personal knowledge, when you use the word "cabinet", how close do you mean? My 121H has the same exact driver as the combo, but the actual speaker cabinet is 1.5 times the size as the combo. Would I have been better to buy the 121NY as it is almost identical in size to the combo? The rig is more pleasing to my own ears vs. using the combo with the 121NY, but now you have me wondering......

punkinfantry · #15 10-18-2011, 11:39 AM

but...is it good for metal?

billfitzmaurice · #16 10-18-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MODELL

Bill, for my own personal knowledge, when you use the word "cabinet", how close do you mean? My 121H has the same exact driver as the combo, but the actual speaker cabinet is 1.5 times the size as the combo. Would I have been better to buy the 121NY as it is almost identical in size to the combo? The rig is more pleasing to my own ears vs. using the combo with the 121NY, but now you have me wondering......

Identical cabs is best, but identical drivers is the main concern, as most destructive interference take place in the mids, and the different cab sizes won't cause that.

MODELL · #17 10-18-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

Identical cabs is best, but identical drivers is the main concern, as most destructive interference take place in the mids, and the different cab sizes won't cause that.

Thanks!!!!!!

Joe Louvar · #18 10-18-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by supermaxx

Everyone seems to like another Markbass 1x12. Any opinions on a 2x10? I've gotten good sound whenever I've played a rig with 10s and have had people I trust recommend them. Would it sound weird with a 12 too?

I'd also be interested in something more affordable than the Markbass stuff. How are the GK Neo cabs?

Don't mix cabinets and the GK neo cabs are great - but Markbass says the NEW YORK 121 is the perfect companion to their Mini CMD 121P and it stacks perfectly under the Mini CMD 121P and IMO that’s important and it’s the most recommend ext cab in this thread.

Russell L · #19 10-18-2011, 03:12 PM

I believe what Bill said about it being important to have the same driver. If you don't mind the extra few pounds and size, the 121H cab will give you more bottom due to the bigger cab. I have played the Mini 121P in the store and it did not have the fullness of my CMD 121H combo, which has pretty much the same size cab as the 121H cab alone. The two drivers are the same and will each get 250w, except the 121H cab will also put out more bottom. I believe this is correct. But, it's your choice. And I'm sure that the NY121 will also sound good. I haven't tried one, though, so I can't say FOR SURE how much difference there is between it and the 121H. Just a guess here, but I bet the 121H will give more bottom.

billfitzmaurice · #20 10-18-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell L

Just a guess here, but I bet the 121H will give more bottom.

It will, even if tuned to the same frequency. There will be a difference in the phase response as well, but not enough to be a problem.