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12-28-2012, 11:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | | In a horn, the mouth/exit is the radiator...where the wavefront hits the outside air...like the cone on a DR. | 
12-28-2012, 11:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | With respect to the "T" stack, with 4 speakers in a square, cab orientation doean't matter (laying it on a side). If you want to maintain the horizontal dispersion of a vertical driver alignment, I'd probably build an equipment case or something the same height as the cab and just set it beside it for your "wide cab" setup. Or make some other faux sidebox, stage prop or something.
Or just get a wide cab.  | 
12-28-2012, 01:22 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Burbank, Ca | | | Mesa Diesel 1x15. Im hoping the 2nd one I just found will be on my doorstep when I get home from work! | 
12-28-2012, 01:24 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Athens, GA | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by will33
Is the b25 a horn cab? If so, try placing the mic within an inch or 2 of the horn mouth. Try just inside, even, and just outside. Experiment with placement between center and edge.
If it's a direct radiator, mic it like any other. On center is all the mids/treble and gets bassier closer to the edge. | No it's a 2x15 on a flat baffle with a very small port. Big and bulky and not a great design IME.
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12-28-2012, 01:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ddbassGA No it's a 2x15 on a flat baffle with a very small port. Big and bulky and not a great design IME. | Eh..thanks.
I thought something they made back then was an Acoustic style horn cab, but I'm not any sort of guru on Ampeg speaker history. | 
12-28-2012, 03:57 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Athens, GA | | | Yes that was the V4B cab. Deep 2x15 dual folded horn. A true beast!
A 70's 4x12 V4 cab sold on EBay today super cheap, like under $70 pickup only, Seattle.
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12-28-2012, 04:27 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Burbank, Ca | | and my cab came in! V4b + 2 Mesa Diesel 1x15's with evm 15L's.  | 
12-28-2012, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TussinBot. and my cab came in! V4b + 2 Mesa Diesel 1x15's with evm 15L's.  | I bet that getup sounds SUHWEET!
Presently my main rig is a Mesa Walkabout Scout 15" combo and matching cab and it kills!
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12-28-2012, 07:29 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Greenville, NC USA | | | I think I may have found it. There's a guy locally selling one of these (see attached pic). It's heavy, but I think I can get it at a good price. And it's about 1/4" shy of being the same width as the V4 (heck even I can live with that). Plus it will make for a great 4-10 to use when I feel like taking out my Walkabout head or GB Shuttle 6.0 with it. What do you guys think? Will it sound good with the V4?
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12-28-2012, 10:02 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Greenville, NC USA | | | Question rephrase. Have any of you guys put a V4 (or any old school tube amp) on top of this beast of a 4-10?
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12-28-2012, 10:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Detroitish | | Quote:
Originally Posted by two fingers Question rephrase. Have any of you guys put a V4 (or any old school tube amp) on top of this beast of a 4-10? |
Close as I've gotten  | 
12-28-2012, 10:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | | The 410HLF plays way deep bass, but lacks a little sensitivity in order to get there and doesn't have anything you'd call "aggresive" or "present" midrange. Takes a lot of power to play as loud as some other cabs with a bit less power pushing them.
It's a personal taste/tone thing. You might really like it, or you may find it coming up a little short with the smallish power tube amp at louder gig volumes.
They are solid and popular cabs though. If it turns out not your cup-o-tea, shouldn't have much trouble flipping it for a fair price. | 
12-29-2012, 11:35 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Greenville, NC USA | | | So does anyone know if there is much tonal difference between the 410hlf and the PR410hlf? The latter is the one I'm going to look at shortly. Thanks.
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12-29-2012, 11:48 AM
|  | death to long live love and hate forever Records of Existence/PyrE owner | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: wes virginny | | | v4s fit perfectly on top of the fender 610 or 215 pro.... and sound awesome too! | 
12-29-2012, 11:54 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Greenville, NC USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeballkid v4s fit perfectly on top of the fender 610 or 215 pro.... and sound awesome too! | If this other doesn't work out I will have to have a look. Thanks.
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12-29-2012, 12:14 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles | | | Acoustic 404 (1x15), Acoustic 402 (2x15) and an Acoustic 406 wide (2x15) are all the same width as your V4 (26 1/2). I know you said you're looking for 10"s and 12"s, but these cabs would probably rock with the V4. | 
12-29-2012, 06:51 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Port Orchard WA | | | Mine fit's perfectly on top of my peavey 215d. Couple that with the fact that it's the best sounding rig I've ever had and it's pretty cool. | 
12-30-2012, 04:00 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Burbank, Ca | | Quote:
Originally Posted by two fingers I bet that getup sounds SUHWEET!
Presently my main rig is a Mesa Walkabout Scout 15" combo and matching cab and it kills! |
It does sound sweet! When I first got my v4b I also wanted a cab that matched the width of the head, just for looks preference. I quickly realized, after trying the diesel 1x15 out that it no longer mattered. The mid forwardness of the v4b + the diesel 15s creates such an aggressive in your face rig. The low end isnt abundant, but its tight and defined. While not having tried many cab combinations with the v4b I found the rock tone in my head, and to me it slays. Although I already have 2 diesel cabs I guarantee I will continue to pick them up when I see them, if I could get 4 to run the head at 2 ohms...oh god. I would like to try it out with some berg cabs aswell for a different flavor, specifically the NV series cabs. Never tried my v4b with a sealed cab but I imagine the diesels are similar in mid forwardness. Although the diesels are ported, like I said there isnt much low end. With the Avatar 212 neo I used to have, there was too much undefined low end, I got the diesels and it felt like the blanket came off the cabinet. No more mud, just rock.
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