What do you think about Orange Amps?

[nordyboy]

I ran a Terror 500 for a short while, Sounded amazing through the cab and so much volume! I sold it because the DI was very poor quality and was always post eq

[mystic38]

but you still think Fender is Fender right?..

Originally Posted by Bassmec

When I had a saturday job at Orange music in denmark st it was just a guitar shop mostly full of secondhand gibsons and some fenders with no amp production what so ever it had a small studio downstairs was a four track.
The amps we sold as Orange were all made by Matamp in yorkshire and now they are made even further away and without any of the same components, with a board of directors that none of them even went to the funeral of the owner of either Orange music or Matamp (formerly Huddesfield Radio) and what this product was originally, bears no similarity to what they sell today. sorry!
PS. The only thing built like an Orange today is still a Matamp.

[johnson79]

Saw Hot Water Music last night. All Orange amps. I got to hang or with them for a bit before the show. Jason Black is running a tube head with a Terror 500 for backup. He used a 1000 in Europe and said it was insanely loud. I want one!

[Mr. Foxen]

Originally Posted by mystic38

but you still think Fender is Fender right?..

Fender was bought as a going concern by CBS with its own designs and facilities, not just a brand name, plus it was bought back by people from the Pre CBS days. Better comparison would be Squier going "Yeah, back when we introduced the P bass to the market, it revolutionised the role of the bass player and set a standard every instrument since has been trying to live up to."

[Bassmec]

Originally Posted by mystic38

but you still think Fender is Fender right?..

I play a Gibson 73 custom shop 2 fixed pickup version of an all maple grabber
and a Wilks sliding nordstrand pickup copy of a stingray 5.

Closest thing I got to a fender was this just post CBS precision, oh **** there I am caught red handed sinfully running an 18" under a 4 X 12 cab
With the old Marshall JMP back in 1972.


At that time I worked for Celestion, nobody in the design or test shop thought it was a bad idea back then, I will always experiment with stuff and the 18" Selmer goliath put some serious seventies flare flapping action under the Marshall 4x12, so I went with that and haven't stopped breaking all the rulz since.
But the results are better with two amps and two EQ's so you can get the best from each cab.

[Bassman62]

Originally Posted by Mr. Foxen

What do you mean by that?

That it wasn't built by Orange for Gibson.

[rodl2005]

Originally Posted by Bassmec

I play a Gibson 73 custom shop 2 fixed pickup version of an all maple grabber
and a Wilks sliding nordstrand pickup copy of a stingray 5.

Closest thing I got to a fender was this just post CBS precision, oh **** there I am caught red handed sinfully running an 18" under a 4 X 12 cab
With the old Marshall JMP back in 1972.


At that time I worked for Celestion, nobody in the design or test shop thought it was a bad idea back then, I will always experiment with stuff and the 18" Selmer goliath put some serious seventies flare flapping action under the Marshall 4x12, so I went with that and haven't stopped breaking all the rulz since.
But the results are better with two amps and two EQ's so you can get the best from each cab.

That's some amazing photoshopping

[Bassmec]

Originally Posted by rodl2005

That's some amazing photoshopping

Not my work that's an original painted negative by Stan Shaffer sadly dead now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Shaffer

[Mr. Foxen]

Originally Posted by Bassman62

That it wasn't built by Orange for Gibson.

Matamp were commissioned to build amps for Gibson owned Orange. That's why there are a bunch of Green era Matamps on Orange chassis with Orange faceplates about. Chassis just like that one, with faceplates just like that one.

[Bassman62]

Originally Posted by Mr. Foxen

Matamp were commissioned to build amps for Gibson owned Orange. That's why there are a bunch of Green era Matamps on Orange chassis with Orange faceplates about. Chassis just like that one, with faceplates just like that one.

Once again speculation but once again wrong.

[Mr. Foxen]

Going to contribute some better information? I tend to stick with what all evidence points toward until sufficient evidence to the contrary appears.

[Kopfjaeger]

Oh boy, here we go.

Personally I don't always buy items for their lineage. Sometimes, but not always. Yes, back in the day Matamp built amps for Orange. While I like the concept, and would have rather purchased, a point to point hand wired amp, it was not a deal breaker for me.

I did not purchase an Orange for the "cool" color of their tolex. Just as I did not purchase it for it's lineage. I purchased it after doing some research and knowing its sound would be appealing to my style. My Ad200b worked perfectly "for me" and that is why I purchased it. It's a heavy beast so be prepared for that.

Yes, Orange can be expensive outside of Great Brittan, but there are deals on new gear, to be had. Amazon has huge discounts that a few music dealers will match if challenged. The TB500 sells there for well under $600. there.

For the record, I played my TB500 at rehearsal yesterday for the first time through the studios Mesa 1-15 cab, not my favorite cab. It did sound awesome, and these words came from my bandmates. I knew it sounded awesome but it was great to hear it from them.

Yup, Orange is not for everyone just like a Fender P or J is not for everyone.

Sepp

[Bassman62]

Originally Posted by Mr. Foxen

Going to contribute some better information? I tend to stick with what all evidence points toward until sufficient evidence to the contrary appears.

Why don't you look it up and tell me what you come up with.

[Mr. Foxen]

I've already asked you to confirm what I got from speaking to the people that made them.

[dunwichamps]

orange makes a bunch of overpriced crap nowadays which does nothing to honor the heritage of the OrMat or the post 72 era stuff. They should scrap the **** and rebuild their line with models like OR18, OR50, OR100 and a OR200 or OR300 and the schematics actually reflect the original schemes from the OrMat and post72 era. Not with dumb channel switching and a bunch of FMVs all over the place.

[Bassman62]

Originally Posted by Mr. Foxen

I've already asked you to confirm what I got from speaking to the people that made them.

You've seen shots from the front and back of the amp so do a little googling, find the amp and tell me about it.

Regarding confirming, I'm not going to confirm what you say you were told by the people who made them.

As you seem to know so much about these amps you should be able to tell me about the history etc of the amp which up to now you haven't.

[Bassman62]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

orange makes a bunch of overpriced crap nowadays which does nothing to honor the heritage of the OrMat or the post 72 era stuff. They should scrap the **** and rebuild their line with models like OR18, OR50, OR100 and a OR200 or OR300 and the schematics actually reflect the original schemes from the OrMat and post72 era. Not with dumb channel switching and a bunch of FMVs all over the place.

Luckily you can still go to Matamp at Meltham and get the real 'Made In England' items.

And not 'Final assembly in the UK'

[Mr. Foxen]

Originally Posted by Bassman62

You've seen shots from the front and back of the amp so do a little googling, find the amp and tell me about it.

Regarding confirming, I'm not going to confirm what you say you were told by the people who made them.

As you seem to know so much about these amps you should be able to tell me about the history etc of the amp which up to now you haven't.

I thought you knew about it. I've already put the basics of the history earlier in the thread.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by Bassman62

Luckily you can still go to Matamp at Meltham and get the real 'Made In England' items.

And not 'Final assembly in the UK'

I have seen Matamp recently reduced their tube line to just a Minimat, GT1, and a GT200. I dig that. I have worked on a few Matamps from 2008-2010 and i was not super impressed with what I saw under the hood but it was not bad. They have also changed hands often so hard to say if this refects the current setup they have, Dont know if I was in the states I would pony up the kind of money people do here but its probably much more economical in the UK.

[Bassman62]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

I have seen Matamp recently reduced their tube line to just a Minimat, GT1, and a GT200. I dig that. I have worked on a few Matamps from 2008-2010 and i was not super impressed with what I saw under the hood but it was not bad. They have also changed hands often so hard to say if this refects the current setup they have, Dont know if I was in the states I would pony up the kind of money people do here but its probably much more economical in the UK.

Isn't Jeff Lewis still running the factory at Meltham?