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02-24-2011, 08:45 PM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | | What kind of Fender combo is this?
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I recently acquired this Fender 1x15 combo amp and a made in Indonesia Fender Squire P-bass. What kind amp is this? I don't know anything about it. How many watts? Tube or solid state pre? Anyone have any info? 
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02-25-2011, 10:05 AM
| | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | | Anyone? I was given this amp. It works. As you can see, The 'middle' knob is missing. I'm not that familiar with Fender bass amps. Is this an old 'blackface'? I just don't know what it is? Looks like there might have been a badge of some sort in the middle of the black front there, but obviously that's missing now.
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02-25-2011, 10:21 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Louisville, KY | | | Fender Frontman maybe? No info on the back?
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02-25-2011, 12:53 PM
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Endorsing Artist: Dark Horse strings | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Verde Valley, AZ | | | I was going to say Frontman, but something's off. I don't think there was a Frontman with a 15". Maybe this is a BXR prototype? Or a clone?
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02-25-2011, 01:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Niagara Falls, NY | | | I had a BXR100 with the 15. The controls looked nothing like that. |
02-25-2011, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sevenyearsdown  I had a BXR100 with the 15. The controls looked nothing like that. | The BXR100/200 are second generation, with the graphic EQ. The first generation BXRs were knobs and pushbuttons only, like the 300. This is closest to a Frontman, but it doesn't match any Frontman amp either. The controls on this are simpler than any of the Frontman series. My conjecture about BXR was because this amp has a 15", which the Frontman didn't, but the BXRs did. I'm guessing it's some kind of short run transitional unit or prototype if it's a real Fender, which it looks like.
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02-25-2011, 01:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mississippi Coast | | Q; What kind of Fender combo is this?
A; cheap! 
Seriously, could it be one that came with one of their budget bass+amp starter packs?
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02-25-2011, 01:44 PM
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Endorsing Artist: Dark Horse strings | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Verde Valley, AZ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by lbwdog Q; What kind of Fender combo is this?
A; cheap!
Seriously, could it be one that came with one of their budget bass+amp starter packs? | With 2 unlabeled controls?
The more I look at this, the curioser it gets. 
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02-25-2011, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by okcrum With 2 unlabeled controls?
The more I look at this, the curioser it gets. | You are quite right. It's looking less & less Fenderish!
Bet it's a counterfeit.... 
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02-25-2011, 02:18 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada | | | I would say it's a SS combo that has lost the panel lettering for volume and possibly Master.
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02-25-2011, 02:27 PM
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Endorsing Artist: Dark Horse strings | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Verde Valley, AZ | | | Yeah, Paul, I suppose it could be a rattle can repaint on the panel, too. The number of controls, and the pot with a switch for the compressor - note LED above the control - don't match anything I know of. The power switch looks vaguely like 80s Fender. The only way to get a better idea of date and manufacturer might be to pop out the chassis, look for info on the circuit board(s), and get date codes off the pots or something.
That is, unless there's something written on the back panel.
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02-25-2011, 02:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mississippi Coast | | | It just doesn't smell like Fender to me. Look at the Tolex seams on top, and how the front baffle doesn't go all the way to the bottom plate.
Kinda reminds me of Montgomery Wards or sumpin'.
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02-25-2011, 03:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mississippi Coast | | I just did an 18 page Google image search and found nothing like this. even the Fender Frontlines and other cheap Fenders had some sort of jacks on the right hand side. The logo on the black panel looks too small also.
Now, I refuse to lose any sleep over this, and am not gonna waste any more time trying to solve the puzzle! 
But I'll bet this is some cheapie import that somebody tried to dress up as a Fender.
Oh, and Fender very, very rarely used that grill cloth on any of their later model budget amps.
Y'all let me know when you figure it out! 
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02-25-2011, 04:19 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | I've never seen a Fender without a front panel of some kind...this one is a weird duck IF it's a Fender.
BTW - I have a Bassman 120 combo from the early 80's and the input jack is on the left side of the face. Also, the tone controls are in about the same sequence and placement as my 120, so it might be from that era.
It is not a "Blackface', as that term is generally used for the Bassman heads of the 60's which pre-dated the silver panel amps.
Here's a photo of a Bassman 120..it's not an amp you see often: 
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02-25-2011, 04:49 PM
| | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | Ok folks. So I got home from work and I turned this thing upside down and all around and there's no mention of a model name. Here are a couple pics of the back. 
And a closer shot of the writing. 
The writing says 'Fender Musical Instruments, CBS Musical Instruments, A Division of CBS Inc, Fullerton, CA.'
Then that green label says '002'. Could that be a serial number?
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02-25-2011, 05:01 PM
| | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by lbwdog I just did an 18 page Google image search and found nothing like this. even the Fender Frontlines and other cheap Fenders had some sort of jacks on the right hand side. The logo on the black panel looks too small also.
Now, I refuse to lose any sleep over this, and am not gonna waste any more time trying to solve the puzzle!
But I'll bet this is some cheapie import that somebody tried to dress up as a Fender.
Oh, and Fender very, very rarely used that grill cloth on any of their later model budget amps.
Y'all let me know when you figure it out! | Lol. I feel your pain. Thanks for looking though. 
I did the same thing that's why I started this thread. |
02-25-2011, 05:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mississippi Coast | | Well......I guess I was wrong. It seems to be a Fender before CBS sold it, which was mid eighties IIRC.
kinda demonstrates how CBS ultimately cheapened the brand. It really does look like some no-name import you'd find in a pawn shop or super discount store around that time.
Thankfully, I can sleep tonite! 
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02-25-2011, 05:12 PM
| | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by lbwdog Well......I guess I was wrong. It seems to be a Fender before CBS sold it, which was mid eighties IIRC.
kinda demonstrates how CBS ultimately cheapened the brand. It really does look like some no-name import you'd find in a pawn shop or super discount store around that time.
Thankfully, I can sleep tonite! | Excellent. So that gives me a starting point. Glad you're not losing any sleep. |
02-25-2011, 05:42 PM
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Endorsing Artist: Dark Horse strings | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Verde Valley, AZ | | | Closest thing I've found so far is Fender Sidekick series, but that's MIJ in the early 80s.
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02-25-2011, 05:47 PM
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