What makes an 8x10 do what it does?

[hardtwister]

What is special about an 8x10? How can they kill like they do with tens? What makes them special? 8x10 vs 1x15 & 4x10 combined? Please explain the magic of the 8x10..
Is Ampeg the only way? How do diff 8x10 cabs compare?
Thank you!

[iualum]

810s are passe.

[Mastermold]

Originally Posted by hardtwister

What is special about an 8x10? How can they kill like they do with tens? What makes them special? 8x10 vs 1x15 & 4x10 combined? Please explain the magic of the 8x10..
Is Ampeg the only way? How do diff 8x10 cabs compare?
Thank you!

How does one explain magic? It just is. Gig one with an SVT on top and you'll see.

[Bass_Pounder]

Nothing special unless it's the sound you are looking for.

There are other options that are smaller and lighter, yet louder.

[rodl2005]

It has 8 x 10's is a sealed cab, has no internal x-over / tweeter, is big & (mostly) black

[Got2SadowskyNYC]

8 10 inch speakers gives you 80 inches of surface area moving air.

4 10s and a 15 gives you 55 inches of surface area.

10's react faster than a 15 so they sound punchier at close range. 15s being slower to respond sound woffier at close range.

Move your ear out about 20 - 30 feet and the waves have had time to fully develope and they will sound almost the same.

[meatwad]

8x10s? I thought it was all about the 2x12s these days. Last time I saw an Ampeg 8x10, I spilled a Bartles & James into my Atari 5200..

[cr250_977]

8- 10" speakers.....

[iualum]

Originally Posted by Bass_Pounder

Nothing special unless it's the sound you are looking for.

There are other options that are smaller and lighter, yet louder.

Yep. OP, try taking a look around the threads in this forum.

[zachoff]

Originally Posted by Bass_Pounder

Nothing special unless it's the sound you are looking for.

There are other options that are smaller and lighter, yet louder.

The sound is what's special. Smaller, lighter, and louder without the tone just isn't the same with any other cabinet.

...and yeah. SVT & 810 rule the School of Rock.

...and to the OPs other question: Most other 810 cabs are ported. The Ampeg is sealed and that makes it different/special.

[Bass_Pounder]

Originally Posted by hardtwister

What makes them special? 8x10 vs 1x15 & 4x10 combined?

In that scenario, the 8X10 wins.

A 1X15 and a 4X10 is a terrible combination.

[iualum]

Originally Posted by Got2SadowskyNYC

8 10 inch speakers gives you 80 inches of surface area moving air.

4 10s and a 15 gives you 55 inches of surface area.

10's react faster than a 15 so they sound punchier at close range. 15s being slower to respond sound woffier at close range.

Move your ear out about 20 - 30 feet and the waves have had time to fully develope and they will sound almost the same.

Surface area only begins to tell the story, & your surface area calculations are incorrect as well. Also, 10s don't necessarily move quicker, nor are they inherently "punchier." Old wives tales.

[hardtwister]

Originally Posted by meatwad

8x10s? I thought it was all about the 2x12s these days. Last time I saw an Ampeg 8x10, I spilled a Bartles & James into my Atari 5200..

Totally Hilarious!! Yeah, 12"s are the new 10's huh

[Got2SadowskyNYC]

Porting changes the sound, speaker contruction, the thinkness of the cabnet wood (how stiff it is), etc. There's more to it than the number of speakers. Look at Phil Jones Bass cabs.

And to really confuse it more. Compare an Ampeg 8x10 with 2 Ampeg 4x10s. The 2 4x10 will sound slightly bigger than the 8x10 because the boxes have more internal space.

[Got2SadowskyNYC]

Bass Pounder that is your opinion. Try a Bag End 4x10 and a 1x15 sub with thier crossover and get back to me.

[iualum]

Originally Posted by hardtwister

Totally Hilarious!! Yeah, 12"s are the new 10's huh

12s may have been the new 10s. 15s are now (sometimes in combination w/6.5" mids). And I don't see that changing for quite some time, actually.

[BigEarl]

Of all the cabs I own, have owned or played through, by far the most memorable was the Ampeg SVT 810 that was on the backline at the ROT rally last year in Austin ....being driven by Eden WT800. Wow, what a sound and feeling!

[Bass_Pounder]

Originally Posted by Got2SadowskyNYC

Bass Pounder that is your opinion. Try a Bag End 4x10 and a 1x15 sub with thier crossover and get back to me.

Don't have to.............

If you are bi-amping, then you are carrying around a 4X10 to do the work of a single 6" mid driver - but hey, if like carrying around excess weight and speakers for the fun of it, have at it.

[Bass_Pounder]

Originally Posted by Got2SadowskyNYC

8 10 inch speakers gives you 80 inches of surface area moving air.

4 10s and a 15 gives you 55 inches of surface area.

10's react faster than a 15 so they sound punchier at close range. 15s being slower to respond sound woffier at close range.

Move your ear out about 20 - 30 feet and the waves have had time to fully develope and they will sound almost the same.

Just about everything here is wrong

[meatwad]

LOL!! I love these cans of worms. Anyway, 10s are the new 10s, and the old 10s are still 10s. I love 10s. Eight at a time.