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Old 03-24-2010, 04:09 PM
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What Mic are you using on your Cab.

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I've been DIing an Ampeg SVT-CL and I want to mic the cab instead. I was thinking of a Sennheiser 609. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

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Old 03-24-2010, 04:15 PM
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Don't know the Sennheiser. I recently got a (used) Shure Beta 52A for live use on the kick drum, but I am going to try recording the bass amp with it too as some folks on here have recommended it for that.
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Old 03-24-2010, 04:22 PM
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I use an old Electro-Voice 666.
Works great for small 50-60 watt amps.
Also sounds good for my upright bass.
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Old 03-24-2010, 04:27 PM
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i use 2 mics when recording

because both mics have there own styles i tend to use them wisely

i usually stick my yoga em-268 condenser on my 2x8 to capture the punch and clarity
my other mic is a 90's shure realistic that my dad got when he was a rodie. real bid range so i place it on my 1x15 to fill the void and that combo sounds huge

altho sometimes i borrow my dads sm-57. good mic but id rather have the yoga
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Old 03-24-2010, 04:33 PM
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heil pr 40 for me. if you want sennheiser, get a 421.
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Old 03-24-2010, 04:34 PM
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I use the Sennheiser e609 silver and I absolutely love it.

Every time I work with another sound man, they always comment on how amazed they were at how amazing my bass sounds with that mic.
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Old 03-24-2010, 04:58 PM
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for me,
live: a sennheiser 421, an sm57 or a beta56A
studio: a 421 or a U87ai.
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for me,
live: a sennheiser 421, an sm57 or a beta56A
studio: a 421 or a U87ai.
John, with all those awesome preamps you've got, do you use a blend of mic + di, or just mic?
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Old 03-24-2010, 05:41 PM
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I usually DI from my pedalboard, but have an SM57 in the gigbag, (as well as an SM58Beta for vocals). Been thinking hard about the Beta 52A. What do you more expirienced guys think about one of those, (kickdrum mic's) on a bass cab?
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Old 03-24-2010, 05:48 PM
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Whatever sounds best. anybody buying a mic for their own cabinet has the luxury of trying a few things- I've had good luck with EV 408's, RE20's, 757's, Shure 57's, 58's, KSM32's, various Neumanns, Sennheisers, you name it. Sometimes whatever's left over ends up sounding fantastic.

To a 'mic guy, ' this is the same question as 'Which cabinet suits me best?' There's no perfect answer, and nobody who doesn't hear you can help much.

If I had a desert island bass amp mic, it'd be an RE20. Not a lot of color, so it's versatile, and always ends up sounding good. Second would be a 57, strong mids, punches through in a mix and gets you what the DI doesn't do well.
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Old 03-24-2010, 06:04 PM
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As an engineer and a player, here are my preferences & why:
1. Beyer M88 (super detailed and big bottom)
2. Sennheiser MD421 (smooth and easy to mix)
3. EV RE20 (big round sound with good transients)
4. Shure SM7B (this mic loves the loud stuff)

Mics I've used and not liked:
1. AKG D112 (hyped in all the wrong places, like a smiley faced EQ)
2. Shure Beta 52 (flatter than the D112, but still unnatural)
3. Shure Beta 56, 57 (the presence peak in these mics suck on bass cabs)
4. Shure SM57 (yes it works in a pinch but the mic's low frequency rolloff means lots of eq at the console. It's only effective when blended with a DI)

Mics I have not used but really want to try:
1. Heil PR40 (I have yet to hear a bad thing about this mic, especially for the money)
2. Shure KSM 313/353 Ribbon Mics (I heard them on Vince Gill's guitar rig and they are beautiful. Then I found out they go down to 30Hz so I need to hear them on a bass cab)
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Old 03-24-2010, 06:18 PM
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Soundelux U195 [a lot like that Bock mic above - FAT]
Direct into a purple knob Avalon 737 [clean and punchy]
Earthworks QTC1 [back off and get some hall with the cab for big sound]
Electro Voice RE20 [meh... its just a big honking dynamic mic - kinda dull but takes the edges off so sometimes useful]
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:02 PM
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John, with all those awesome preamps you've got, do you use a blend of mic + di, or just mic?
i rarely mic an amp in the studio and go direct 95% of the time.
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:18 PM
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As an engineer and a player, here are my preferences & why:
1. Beyer M88 (super detailed and big bottom)
2. Sennheiser MD421 (smooth and easy to mix)
3. EV RE20 (big round sound with good transients)
4. Shure SM7B (this mic loves the loud stuff)

Mics I've used and not liked:
1. AKG D112 (hyped in all the wrong places, like a smiley faced EQ)
2. Shure Beta 52 (flatter than the D112, but still unnatural)
3. Shure Beta 56, 57
4. Shure SM57

Mics I have not used but really want to try:
1. Heil PR40
2. Shure KSM 313/353 Ribbon Mics
Totally agree with the above reviews and have the exact same experiences.

RickenBoogie, the Beta52A sounds good on a kick drum, but has one of those pesky 'pre-eq'd' patterns that makes it sound awful on bass cabs. Same goes for the Audix D6.

I used to use an MD421 a lot live, and an RE20 when recording, but now I find myself using the RE20 live and either that or an SM7B when recording.

JimmyM is a big fan of the Heil PR40, and there is a lot of hype around this mic, especially when it comes to micing bass cabinets. Sounds like it could be a winner.

The Shure KSM353 used to be called the Crowley & Tripp El Diablo. Mercenary audio raved a lot about that mic, and then Shure bought out C&T. Supposedly they kept the design the same, and from what I've heard (reviews and sound samples) it sounds great; more of a studio mic though.
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:32 PM
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JimmyM is a big fan of the Heil PR40, and there is a lot of hype around this mic, especially when it comes to micing bass cabinets.
that hype mainly comes from justin meldal-johnsen, who said rick rubin used one to mic his b-15n for a dixie chicks session that hasn't been released yet and he loved it.
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:02 PM
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I've heard decent results from a Sennheiser e902.
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:50 PM
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..........................Sometimes whatever's left over ends up sounding fantastic.
To a 'mic guy, ' this is the same question as 'Which cabinet suits me best?' There's no perfect answer, and nobody who doesn't hear you can help much.
If I had a desert island bass amp mic, it'd be an RE20. Not a lot of color, so it's versatile, and always ends up sounding good. Second would be a 57, strong mids, punches through in a mix and gets you what the DI doesn't do well.
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