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06-05-2011, 12:19 AM
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What is the difference between these cables? They are all just wires with rubber around them... right? What separates Acoustic from Bass? Does anyone have experience with these and is there really a difference, or does the name just make you believe there is a change in tone?  MONSTER CABLE PROLINK PROFESSIONAL INSTRUMENT CABLES
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06-05-2011, 12:31 AM
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06-05-2011, 12:48 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado | | | Last time I did that, I was 6 and bought a 20 foot cable for my guitar.
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06-05-2011, 12:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado | | | But is there really a difference between the cables?
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06-05-2011, 01:07 AM
| | | | I see that they have one cable for jazz, another for rock e.t.c. That is just plain silly. Don't buy into the expensive special cable sales pitch. It's a scam. |
06-05-2011, 01:51 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Finland (Northern Europe) | | Hi.
If You feel that a topic may be controversial, it's always best to do a search.
The Monster cables, Behringer products and perhaps the "best bass for metal" are the most relevant  .
As for voicing a cable, that's entirely possible, cheap to do, and doesn't make any sense what so ever.
Except for a sales pitch aimed at ignorant buyers.
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06-05-2011, 02:00 AM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | Monster stuff is very highly overrated. I've had many occasions to AB Monsters with other cheaper cables, and there's no difference in tone that I've ever heard. Plus their marketing claims are based on voodoo. They do have a lifetime guarantee, and on the surface that sounds like a good deal, but there are cheaper cables out there with lifetime guarantees, too.
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06-05-2011, 02:06 AM
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If you have any soldering skills, I'd recommend building your own cables. Higher quality, more customization and it's cheaper. |
06-05-2011, 05:54 AM
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06-05-2011, 05:57 AM
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06-05-2011, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by lomo Expensive cables are a scam. Buy based on durability and price. The claims of enhanced tone are a pile of dog mess. | +1. Cables can't add anything to a signal, they can only remove. The Monster 'Bass' cables don't add bass, they remove highs. That's because that cable has very high capacitance. So high that IMO any reputable and honest manufacturer wouldn't sell them at all, deeming them to be defective. |
06-05-2011, 12:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado | | | That's what I thought. I didn't think that a length of copper wire called "Jazz" would be any different from a length of copper wire called "Acoustic".
Are there any cables meant for Bass guitar that differ from normal instrument cables. What's the difference? Does it really matter which cable I buy as long as I get sound to my amp?
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06-05-2011, 12:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, Connecticut, USA | | | There is no such thing as "bass cables". If someone is claiming that there is you should spend your money somewhere else. Cables is not a complicated thing. It is simply copper cable with ends. It can be argued that different ends make better cables because they last longer or are easy to replace but I wouldn't make too much of it. An inexpensive instrument cable will do just fine until you are a touring act.
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06-05-2011, 12:31 PM
| | | | Buying specialty cables is like buying specialty screws for your pickguard. |
06-05-2011, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MuzikMan An inexpensive instrument cable will do just fine until you are a touring act. | That's going to the other extreme, as cheap cables can suffer from both high capacitance and insufficient shielding, which can be especially problematic with passives. The middle ground is best. Buy only cable made with Switchcraft or Neutrik connectors and name brand wire. But not expensive; a dollar per foot plus ten dollars for connectors is all you have to pay for the highest quality. Any more than that is money down the drain. |
06-05-2011, 03:50 PM
| | | | You have to admire them really - to write that stuff and keep a straight face can't be easy!
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06-05-2011, 04:01 PM
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06-05-2011, 04:08 PM
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06-05-2011, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice +1. Cables can't add anything to a signal, they can only remove. The Monster 'Bass' cables don't add bass, they remove highs. That's because that cable has very high capacitance. So high that IMO any reputable and honest manufacturer wouldn't sell them at all, deeming them to be defective. | +1. This is really bad.
It's one thing to claim improvements from products which don't really do anything (like expensive power cable replacements and power conditioners), and quite another to deliberately make a suboptimal product purely with an eye toward tricking an unwary consumer.
No cable should affect your tone. At all.
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