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11-22-2011, 01:30 PM
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Hi!
Uncertain where to make the biggest investment ... Does the amp? Does the cab?
I tested with two different amps and different cabinets.
The result can judge for yourself:
Test: Ashdown Electric Blue & Ampeg Portabass on diferents Speakers. Sound Test. - YouTube
Thanks!
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11-22-2011, 01:31 PM
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11-22-2011, 01:37 PM
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11-22-2011, 01:44 PM
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11-22-2011, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Louvar  Music Lessons - then ask your instructor. |
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11-22-2011, 02:39 PM
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11-22-2011, 02:41 PM
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11-22-2011, 03:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dallas, TX | | | The cab is more important, but a crap amp won't help either.
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11-22-2011, 04:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Spain | | | In the end what defines the sound is the cab. |
11-22-2011, 04:22 PM
| | that video LIES | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern California | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jesuskno In the end what defines the sound is the cab. | Not w/o a bass, amp, some cables & a bit of fiddling on your part. 
Pardon my snark- just saying there's much to *the sound* in addition to the cab.
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11-22-2011, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jesuskno In the end what defines the sound is the cab. | Yes. The speaker is the last in line and it is the part that transforms the electric signal into the soundwaves we hear. Some cabs color the sound a lot, hopefully in a nice way, others not as much but either way, if you don't have a good speaker, everything hooked up before it won't sound as good either. |
11-22-2011, 04:28 PM
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11-22-2011, 04:42 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington Heights, IL | | | Cab. A cab that makes you loud enough on stage is worth it. Generally speaking, you can get by with a sub-par head but not with a sub par speaker. The name of the game is getting loud enough on stage and within the band context. Tone can wait.... |
11-22-2011, 04:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Colorado | | | Cab. I hated my tone for years until finally I bought a good cab, could never figure out why. Cost more than any amp I'd ever bought and well worth it.
Caveat: once you have a great cab, then you'll start hearing the weaknesses in your amp, pickups, etc. That's a good thing, because generally it's not that difficult to get decent tone... Just keep turning off effects until you sound good again. (That's my mantra for 2012.) |
11-22-2011, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by will33 Yes. The speaker is the last in line and it is the part that transforms the electric signal into the soundwaves we hear. Some cabs color the sound a lot, hopefully in a nice way, others not as much but either way, if you don't have a good speaker, everything hooked up before it won't sound as good either. | +1 |
11-22-2011, 05:19 PM
| | | | By the vid you posted, I liked the Goliath Jr the most with any of the two heads. |
11-23-2011, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronbassman By the vid you posted, I liked the Goliath Jr the most with any of the two heads. | An economic amplifier is much improved with a good cab. |
11-23-2011, 02:35 AM
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1: you can't EQ a cab
2: cab = volume
3: I can buy and sell amps easier than cabs. Shipping cabs is a pain ><
4: cheap cab = cheap sound, reliability, and value in most cases. |
11-23-2011, 04:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Spain | | | The truth is that the video was a bit to show that an economic head and a rather more expensive, on a cab as the SWR no overwhelming difference. Given that the Ashdown combo Store out about 400 euros, and the Ampeg Portabass Store in his day were 800 euros. |
11-23-2011, 04:54 AM
|  | Supporting RageQuitter #302 | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Århus, Denmark | | I know that the conventional wisdom here says cabs before amps, but I will say this for the amps: If you have a modular setup, and often play supplied backlines, then you get one step ahead by bringing a head with a preamp section that you are familiar with. At small festivals similar venues, you don't always get to use any of your own gear, but in general you can change the head more often than the whole rig. And if you get an amp with a DI (that you plan on using) then the cab is completely out of the FOH equation.
Other than that I will bow to the majority, even though I personally feel more connected to my amp than my cab. The amp has all the knobs! 
Martin
*EDIT* If you are considering the electric blue then the choice of amp is actually quite important. IME they have a very dark voicing that is hard to EQ out no matter which bass or cab you are playing. There are a few amps out there that are distinct in ways that can't be easily tweaked.
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