Who makes a 1x15 and 1x10 (or similar) in 1 cab?

jcburn · #1 09-09-2010, 04:32 AM

Hopefully 8 ohm and somewhere between 300-500 watts.
Search function hasn't been my friend yet!
Thanks everyone.

Nashrakh · #2 09-09-2010, 04:36 AM

Pretty much every custom cab builder?

Guess I'm not of much help here, I could only give an address in Europe

Gintaras · #3 09-09-2010, 04:41 AM

LDS

you will find one in the custom cabinets section

http://www.lowdownsound.com/customcabinets.php

SWR Triad...you can find them on ebay and TB classifieds once in a while

http://www.swrsound.com/products/sea...tno=4470400000

AlexanderB · #4 09-09-2010, 04:54 AM

EBS did manufacture a couple of cabinets with a 15" + a 10". Model 311 is probably the most common one. It can still be found new from some dealers.
It utilizes a (4 Ohm) Kappa 15C (no cross over) and a 16 Ohm version of the Beta 10 (no cross over) paired with a cheap 1.75" Selenium horn. Many years ago, EBS used EV 15" and Eminence APT horn. Not sure about the 15", but there was an EBS three way cabinet (611, if I remember correctly) with the APT 200 horn. So, pretty average quality drivers...

Being familiar with the 311 (but not having heard the Triad) I very much assume that the Triad is way more refined and polite than the 311.

/Alexander from Sweden

lbwdog · #5 09-09-2010, 06:23 AM

15 + 10....Not a good match. They operate too close in frequency bandwidth. Either an 8" or 6.5" mid driver should be used with a 15.

jcburn · #6 09-09-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lbwdog

15 + 10....Not a good match. They operate too close in frequency bandwidth. Either an 8" or 6.5" mid driver should be used with a 15.

Thats handy info. Do any of the major companies do this though? I live in Australia so none of the US cab builders are an option to me at the moment.
Maybe an Australian builder?

rpsands · #7 09-09-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lbwdog

15 + 10....Not a good match. They operate too close in frequency bandwidth. Either an 8" or 6.5" mid driver should be used with a 15.

This is not uniformly true; 10s are good to 2khz off-axis and 15s closer to 1200hz, so you do get some improvement.

Also, there is a big difference between bass guitar 10's and high end PA 10s. 6.5 and 8" midranges that can keep up with a 15" woofer are few and far between; really not that many of them and they are very expensive.

A 3015LF and a coaxial 10" mid-woofer could be a fine pairing with a good crossover design and such.

nobo · #8 09-09-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lbwdog

15 + 10....Not a good match. They operate too close in frequency bandwidth. Either an 8" or 6.5" mid driver should be used with a 15.

Theory is not always = to real life, and EBS 311 is one of the best example to prove that : huge and full sound (311AC)

rptrsn2 · #9 09-09-2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nobo

Theory is not always = to real life, and EBS 311 is one of the best example to prove that : huge and full sound (311AC)

really? dont know about in the same cab but in my opinion a 210 and 115 is the best combo there is, i've tried plenty of other set ups and never been happy with them. to the op what about building your own?

jcburn · #10 09-09-2010, 07:55 PM

Definitely considered it but have very limited funds. I have a 4 ohm 15" Peavey speaker from an old combo. It's only rated at 160 watts.
Other than that I would be hopeles at actually building one myself. I have a few friends that are cabinet makers but would have no knowledge of building a speaker box.
Its a thought though!

rptrsn2 · #11 09-09-2010, 09:03 PM

You can find the wins program link on here to design but its not to hard. if you where in the U.S i have an 8ohm peavey 15 out of my tvx just sitting but prolly cost more to ship down under than its worth.lol think its 250w cont 500w peak.

AlexanderB · #12 09-10-2010, 12:53 AM

nobo, you really like the sound of a stock EBS 311? It is running a very average 15" full range in parallel with a low cost 10" (also run full range). Not much gained in any aspect over a conventional 410, as long as you keep the stock drivers without a cross over.

It is a pretty low-fi cab, in terms of frequency range and response, pretty high distorsion and modest output. The AC version is also including an amp that by today's standard is rather low powered.

I have a passive 311, so I know what I am talking about.

A lot of people here constantly recommend a 6" mid in conjunction with a 3015LF. I agree with rpsands here - it is not a good match. My Eminence Alpha 6 (in spite of being crossed over by 12dB/oct at 400Hz) can not keep up with the 15" in my DIY cab. (And the woofer in that DIY cab has about 3dB less output than the 3015LF, of which I also have one.)
Just like at last rehersal, where the Alpha 6 "bottomed out" with a rattle when I play around 12:th fret on D and G-string. P-bass, no effects or compression, LM-II and the Alpha 6 padded down about 5 dB on the L-pad.

A Deltalite II 2510 (a have acouple of these, too) is actually a good match for a 3015LF. They are very close in sensitivity (I have checked it) and the Deltalite plays much louder than the Alpha 6. The upper mid peak in the Deltalite is easily tamed with an inductor in series.

/Alexander

rpsands · #13 09-10-2010, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexanderB

A lot of people here constantly recommend a 6" mid in conjunction with a 3015LF. I agree with rpsands here - it is not a good match. My Eminence Alpha 6 (in spite of being crossed over by 12dB/oct at 400Hz) can not keep up with the 15" in my DIY cab. (And the woofer in that DIY cab has about 3dB less output than the 3015LF, of which I also have one.)
Just like at last rehersal, where the Alpha 6 "bottomed out" with a rattle when I play around 12:th fret on D and G-string. P-bass, no effects or compression, LM-II and the Alpha 6 padded down about 5 dB on the L-pad.

/Alexander

You missed my meaning I think.

notes on your stuff:
1. your Alpha should be crossed at 18db/octave @ 650-700 hz or so, at least, that's why it's bottoming out. 400hz is too low and 12db/octave is bad also.

2. There are 6" mids that can keep up with the 3015LF. The Beyma 605Nd and the 18 sound 6nd410 can both keep up just fine (the latter can be padded 3db back and still work great).

But, for those who don't want to spend 150 bucks on a 6nd410 or 605nd, a 60 dollar 10 can keep up with the 3015LF when crossed over around 5-600hz or so (the deltalite 10 or a Delta 10a, or even a Beta 10cx). One of those Carvin Neo 10s would be a decent bet too. It's not ideal, but it's far better than the top end of a 3015Lf without another driver

AlexanderB · #14 09-10-2010, 03:41 AM

I know that crossing over at 400 Hz is a tad low, but running the 15" higher up into the mids is actually worse for my application.
The 6" only protests when really pushed really hard. Alternatively, the reduction in sound quality when running the 15" up to 800 Hz (which I have tried) is an always present annoyance, regardless SPL.

Now my boxes sound very nice until they reach their limit.

Sure, there are better mids than Alpha 6 or 8. I just (like you do) find the Deltalite II 2510 to be a far more cost efficient (and robust) option than the pricey (and good!) Beyma mid.

/Alexander

macheted01 · #15 09-10-2010, 06:32 AM

I have a Ampeg SVT1510 that I just love. Not sure of what year it was made. I tried to score another one on ebay not long ago and missed out. I always keep searching for them on ebay, but have only seen one pop up once.

erigod23 · #16 09-10-2010, 06:35 AM

Traynor make a 2x10 and 1X15 in 1 cab.
http://www.traynoramps.com/products....&cat=61&id=400

macheted01 · #17 09-10-2010, 06:39 AM

Here you go. Out of curiousity I looked it up in a couple places.
http://www.daddys.com/detail.php?itemNumber=AMP0003
Myself, I am not willing to spend this much. These guys usually charge up the ass for shipping too. Maybe you are close by though. This one definately needs some TLC.

macheted01 · #18 09-10-2010, 06:44 AM

Also found a link here.
AMPEG SVT 1510 CABINET
Ratings do seem low on the cabinet. Not sure what mine are without looking at. I run mine with a Hartke HA3000 or Ampeg SVT Micro and it sounds great. Actually kind of waiting for these speakers to go, because I thought some neo replacements would be nice.
Also here.
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/r...VT-1510HE/10/1