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12-06-2012, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bobcruz For me it was back and shoulder issues that required a featherweight stack. Super light custom or boutique cabs are available but very pricey and I'm just a hobby player, plus I'm a DIY'er so I built a pair of 20-ish pound 112s and couldn't be happier with the tone/weight/cost:
Eminence Basslites (4 pounds), 12mm sandeply with internal cross bracing and a tweeter/crossover in the top cab only = 42 pound stack. Cloth grills save about a pound per cab compared to steel. | Wow, great work. I wish I could build something that nice. I'm sure most cabinet makers could build something that nice  . | 
12-07-2012, 05:13 AM
| | | | When I bought an Ampeg PF500, I did not buy one of the matching cabs. I know just looking inside a speaker cab does not tell how good it may sound, but I thought the cabs construction looked too light duty. I bought a used Mesa Boogie (EV TL606) 115 to go with the PF500, and it really sounds great. I may have been satisfied with the Ampeg cab, and I may acquire a matching Ampeg PF cab for it eventually. So, my decision was based merely on looking inside the PF 115, and 210 cabs. Not very scientific. | 
12-07-2012, 05:22 AM
| | | | It could be also a matter of taste.Of course first having tried out different cab with different head. Companies usually have specific sounds they want to promote.That's why they make cabs and head to fit together. I have an orange ad200b mk3 and never liked the sound of the orange cab with the 15 speaker and i could not afford the 4x10 version. I got an ebs classic 4x10 which sounded great for me and was in my budget. | 
12-07-2012, 05:23 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Grand Rapids Michigan | | | To the OP:
I see from your profile you play a Fender Jazz. From your logic you should have gone with fender amps and cabs, instead of the aguilar rig you have. All the logos would be matching then.
There are actually a lot of amps that I thought I didnt like because of the cabs they were paired with. For a long time I didnt like the sound of tube amps because I dont care for a sealed cabinet. I thought all ampegs were crap because they were always sitting on an 810e. Then I plugged one of their amps into a different cab, now I love their amps.
There is no reason to match brands of cabs to amps. In a lot of cases there is little to no "designing them to work together." What is a much bigger player is price point, and marketing schemes to move product.
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12-07-2012, 05:36 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virginia Beach, VA | | | As mentioned in an earlier post, LDS and Acme don't manufacture heads. Given the wattage requirements, it was easier to go with a separate pre / power config.
One of the more popular head / cab mismatches is the GK / Hartke combination which I've read about numerous times over the years.
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12-07-2012, 05:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sundsvall, Sweden | | | I build my own tube amps and couldn't force myself into cab building (maybe someday).
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12-07-2012, 06:06 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cayce, SC | | | I am considering other brands of cabs for my Markbass amp. I want them to be GOOD, but very lightweight. My Markbass cabs sound fine, and are so-called lightweight compared to many others, but I can get the same or better quality with a huge reduction of weight in something like, say, Barefaced cabs.
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12-07-2012, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cyclopsbookworm My decision making process was similar to that of an NFL GM making personnel picks...who was the best player available, how much cap space did I have, and what were my greatest needs. | +1
There's no cap room right now for an Aggie DB-750.
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12-07-2012, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CL400Peavey To the OP:
I see from your profile you play a Fender Jazz. From your logic you should have gone with fender amps and cabs, instead of the aguilar rig you have. All the logos would be matching then.
There are actually a lot of amps that I thought I didnt like because of the cabs they were paired with. For a long time I didnt like the sound of tube amps because I dont care for a sealed cabinet. I thought all ampegs were crap because they were always sitting on an 810e. Then I plugged one of their amps into a different cab, now I love their amps.
There is no reason to match brands of cabs to amps. In a lot of cases there is little to no "designing them to work together." What is a much bigger player is price point, and marketing schemes to move product. | I would have gone with Fender amps if they gave me the sound I wanted. I wanted a amp and cabinet that had a good mid range growl and a rich character without the heavy weight. The Aguilar amp provides 500 watts of power with the sound I liked. Since they have 3 cabinet model options with each provding a different sound, it was easy to choose the DB series as they have a good midrange. The weight and quality of construction of the cabinet was also very good. The Aguilar 13 ply Birch wood gives a different sound then other cabinets that use a cheaper MDS material. The vibrations, resonance, dimensions, material, size of ports, if they are in the front, back, or if you have a sealed cabinet attribute to the sound. | 
12-07-2012, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Lantern I would have gone with Fender amps if they gave me the sound I wanted. I wanted a amp and cabinet that had a good mid range growl and a rich character without the heavy weight. The Aguilar amp provides 500 watts of power with the sound I liked. Since they have 3 cabinet model options with each provding a different sound, it was easy to choose the DB series as they have a good midrange. The weight and quality of construction of the cabinet was also very good. The Aguilar 13 ply Birch wood gives a different sound then other cabinets that use a cheaper MDS material. The vibrations, resonance, dimensions, material, size of ports, if they are in the front, back, or if you have a sealed cabinet attribute to the sound. | But the fenders were designed to work together, and the logos match.
All your augments apply to not matching brands.
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Who the heck wants to "cut" through a mix anyway? I want to punch the mix in the balls. Anyone can cut through the mix. Not everyone can beat the mix's ass  | Greenboy-fEARful #53 "Bruce Banner" | 
12-07-2012, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mjac28 Fender's newer line of heads are great but their newer cabs aren't anything special and I think you hit the nail on the head with some matching cabs being more expensive than other better sounding alternatives. | +1. Love the Fender 100t head and tried the matching cabs but my GB cab was better to my ears. The matched cab looked really cool but..
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12-07-2012, 07:16 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Connecticut | | | I wanted a small rig for small rooms (usually with a duo or trio). The GK Mb200 was the perfect amp, and the GB STL-8 cab was the only cab I heard that gave me the tone I wanted.
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12-07-2012, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CL400Peavey But the fenders were designed to work together, and the logos match.
All your augments apply to not matching brands. | Don't be an jerk, you know what I mean. People that buy Strats go through Marshall's, Boogies, etc. they don't want the garbled distortion that Fender has. You also can't compare amps and guitars or basses for a matched sound the same way you have amps and cabs.
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12-07-2012, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyAxe I wanted a small rig for small rooms (usually with a duo or trio). The GK Mb200 was the perfect amp, and the GB STL-8 cab was the only cab I heard that gave me the tone I wanted. | Now that is a great and honest answer. I am glad you found the sound you wanted with your setup | 
12-07-2012, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Lantern Don't be an As#. You know what I mean. People that buy Strats go through Marshall's, Boogies, etc. they don't want the garbled distortion that Fender has. You also can't compare amps and guitars or basses for a matched sound the same way you have amps and cabs. | Easy buddy!
Im just pointing out the error in your logic. I love the aguilar sound, when its through a cab that isnt made by aguilar. Same as I love the Musicman stingray sound, but not through a musicman amp, or cab. Anyone that looks at my rig and thinks, "Man that must suck, look at that peavey on top of a no-name cab... ugh and he isnt using a peavey bass!" should have their head checked. Each component was chosen because of what it does, not the logo on it. IMHO there is very little "designing things to work together" in the commercial world, and a lot of "does this meet price point, and market share feasibility?"
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12-07-2012, 07:39 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newcastle, UK | | | GK's cabs are fantastic and I've owned a fair few. But for me, they weren't exactly what I wanted. As for the other way round, Barefaced don't make amps.
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12-07-2012, 08:02 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NYC | | | Got a great deal on Genz Benz GBE750, was looking for a GB Uber cab but could not find one close enough and in my budget. Got a great deal on an Aguilar GS410 and the combo sounds great, so.... At some point if would liek to get an Uber can and A/B them.
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12-07-2012, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by CL400Peavey Easy buddy!
Im just pointing out the error in your logic. I love the aguilar sound, when its through a cab that isnt made by aguilar. Same as I love the Musicman stingray sound, but not through a musicman amp, or cab. Anyone that looks at my rig and thinks, "Man that must suck, look at that peavey on top of a no-name cab... ugh and he isnt using a peavey bass!" should have their head checked. Each component was chosen because of what it does, not the logo on it. IMHO there is very little "designing things to work together" in the commercial world, and a lot of "does this meet price point, and market share feasibility?" | Out of the GS, SL and DB series cabinets, what did you find they lacked that you were looking for? I don't claim they are the best cabs out there mind you.  | 
12-07-2012, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hdracer I built my own.
Better than anything I could buy. | Can you post your "Build" here. I think it would be interesting plus, I would like to see what you built.
Unless you already did, What thread would it be?
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12-07-2012, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by D.A.R.K. Like Jazzstick, my favorite cab maker (Bergantino) does not make amps. | Quote:
Originally Posted by creis2 Bergantino makes some awesome cabs, but they don't make heads. | Not yet. 
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