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07-23-2011, 08:42 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Wayne County ohio | | | Would this help in the bad power dept?
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Just wondering if I could power my head with this or how many watts would an LH1000 hartke need? I already own a 200w deal.
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07-23-2011, 09:36 AM
|  | Hey, what does this knob do? | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Hampshire | | | "Bad power" can mean many things. Some are self-inflicted. Exactly what problem(s) are you trying to solve, or prevent? | 
07-23-2011, 09:46 AM
| | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | No it wouldn't. Besides, "bad power" is usually caused by outside factors, not the power itself. A surge protector with noise filtering is all you need at the most, and amps have that stuff built in, so a UPS wouldn't do anything you can't already do for cheaper.
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07-24-2011, 07:46 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Wayne County ohio | | | Trying to give good constant power. Trying to prevent surges and spikes and dips. The way it runs on my computer is the battery in it supplies the power. The 110v from the wall just charges the battery. I just need to know how hungry a LH 1000 hartke is and see if it works for what I want.
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07-24-2011, 08:06 AM
| | Registered User Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Hampshire | | Quote:
Originally Posted by The Man 53 Trying to give good constant power. Trying to prevent surges and spikes and dips. | Totally unnecessary. That which is required for the amp to work properly is already in the amp. | 
07-24-2011, 10:41 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: los angeles | | | That is not how that piece works. Like all apc's, they only kick over to battery if the the voltage they receive is less than ~104v or greater than ~134v. There are some power conditioners that will reconstitute voltage by apc, furman and others, but they are closer to 1000$, not 60$. On top of that ups' are meant as emergency back ups to stay on just long enough to avoid getting the sudden kill in power or the spike of it coming back on. If it is hooked up to a pc, it gives you enough time to properly shut it down. A pc draws what, about 100w max? A ups is not meant for power amps current draw. A cheap furman is basically a nice power strip with a fuse, that will at least have a voltage readout on it to let you know when the house power really sucks. | 
07-24-2011, 10:53 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Detroit area, Troy, MI | | | APC gives you enough time to shut down a low power (relative to an amplifier) PC if there are power problems. What you're looking for is a diesel generator that kicks in automatically to keep it going, and the APC just keeps things going until the diesel generator kicks in. Then just store enough diesel fuel on hand to last a whole gig.
Or what everyone else said, APC is not going to do what you want it to.
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07-24-2011, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lokikallas That is not how that piece works. Like all apc's, they only kick over to battery if the the voltage they receive is less than ~104v or greater than ~134v. There are some power conditioners that will reconstitute voltage by apc, furman and others, but they are closer to 1000$, not 60$. On top of that ups' are meant as emergency back ups to stay on just long enough to avoid getting the sudden kill in power or the spike of it coming back on. If it is hooked up to a pc, it gives you enough time to properly shut it down. A pc draws what, about 100w max? A ups is not meant for power amps current draw. A cheap furman is basically a nice power strip with a fuse, that will at least have a voltage readout on it to let you know when the house power really sucks. | Those are called Voltage Regulators, not power conditioners. Large difference worth mentioning. 
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07-24-2011, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice Totally unnecessary. That which is required for the amp to work properly is already in the amp. | Only necessary to the person who has his amp shut down with low voltage or high voltage. We all know a venue owner/manager will just jump at the chance to call in an electrician to solve his wiring troubles? 
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07-24-2011, 03:05 PM
| | Registered User Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Hampshire | | Quote:
Originally Posted by B-string Only necessary to the person who has his amp shut down with low voltage or high voltage. | I haven't had that happen in 46 years of playing. | 
07-24-2011, 04:40 PM
|  | Registered User Maker of HPF-Pre upright bass preamp | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Madison WI | | Quote:
Originally Posted by The Man 53 Just wondering if I could power my head with this or how many watts would an LH1000 hartke need? I already own a 200w deal.
APC Back-UPS ES 550 UPS - 330 Watt - Lead acid
google shopping page APC Back-UPS ES 550 UPS - 330 Watt - Lead acid | Look up the specs on this thing. If it's powering your amp from its internal battery, then you might have a playing time of a few minutes. Also, its power capacity is considerably below what your amp can draw. And it specifies a minimum input voltage of 88 V for "main operations" which probably include charging the battery. http://www.apc.com/resource/include/...ase_sku=BE550G
I agree with Bill that you don't need the protection, but if you did, this particular thing doesn't have enough hamsters in it, proverbially speaking. | 
07-24-2011, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice I haven't had that happen in 46 years of playing. | I'm happy for you Bill!  That does not mean it does NOT happen  But I've only played for a little over fourty years. 
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