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View Poll Results: Would you be interested in approx. 25lb 4x10 or 16lb 2x10 (sound in the vein of a Ber | |
Yes
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Yes if it was not over the price of the average price of other high end 4x10s
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No
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10-05-2012, 08:06 AM
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Modulus, Revsound, & A-Designs Artist | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boston Mass | | | Would you be interested in approx. 25lb 4x10 or 16lb 2x10 (sound in the vein of a Ber
Would you be interested in approx. 25lb 4x10 or 16lb 2x10 (sound in the vein of a Bergantino & Epi)
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10-05-2012, 08:09 AM
|  | Musical Anarchist | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sutton, MA | | I want a sealed 410.  |
10-05-2012, 08:24 AM
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Modulus, Revsound, & A-Designs Artist | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boston Mass | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddels  I want a sealed 410. | Hhhhmm...How about front ported? 
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10-05-2012, 08:24 AM
|  | Registered User | | | | GK 410MBE is sealed and ~ 41 lbs (at least the Chinese version, not sure about the new US version). They are a little boomy, but if you stuff them with ~ 2 lbs of Acousta stuff they sound great. GK 410MBE Mods |
10-05-2012, 08:25 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Grand Rapids Michigan | | Quote:
Originally Posted by basswave Would you be interested in approx. 25lb 4x10 or 16lb 2x10 (sound in the vein of a Bergantino & Epi) | One of the lightest 10's I can find weighs 3.5 pounds, so 14 for 4 of them. How do you propose to build a properly supported cab around them that only weighs 11 pounds? If you could, why would anyone pay for the technology for the composite material to build such a cab, when it uses a poor design like a 410?
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10-05-2012, 08:29 AM
| | Musical Anarchist | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sutton, MA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by basswave Hhhhmm...How about front ported? | Nope. I've got ported already. |
10-05-2012, 09:23 AM
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Modulus, Revsound, & A-Designs Artist | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boston Mass | | Quote:
Originally Posted by CL400Peavey One of the lightest 10's I can find weighs 3.5 pounds, so 14 for 4 of them. How do you propose to build a properly supported cab around them that only weighs 11 pounds? If you could, why would anyone pay for the technology for the composite material to build such a cab, when it uses a poor design like a 410? | I like the Fearful designs...but I disagree with the 410 being a poor design. I think that discussion if valid one if You disagree, but respectfully I would ask that be on another thread.
Just to clarify (4) 10s would be for a 25lb cabinet. (Hypothetically  )
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10-05-2012, 09:26 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Czech Republic | | Quote:
Originally Posted by basswave Just to clarify (4) 10s would be for a 25lb cabinet. (Hypothetically ) | That's one hell of a hypothesis!
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10-05-2012, 09:39 AM
| | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Grand Rapids Michigan | | Quote:
Originally Posted by basswave Just to clarify (4) 10s would be for a 25lb cabinet. (Hypothetically ) | Quote:
Originally Posted by dincz That's one hell of a hypothesis! | +1
You are looking at around 14 pounds for the four drivers. How are you going to build a properly braced cabinet for them with the remaining 11 pounds? And why would anyone pay for that premium material for the design/performance aspect of a 410?
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Who the heck wants to "cut" through a mix anyway? I want to punch the mix in the balls. Anyone can cut through the mix. Not everyone can beat the mix's ass | Greenboy-fEARful #53 "Bruce Banner" |
10-05-2012, 09:44 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kenosha, WI 53140 | | | My 2x12 sits in at 48 pounds and my single 12 is at 26 pounds and I think they are light! If you could pound out high quality tone, great wattage capability and a good price, I would check them out..
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10-05-2012, 09:47 AM
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Modulus, Revsound, & A-Designs Artist | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boston Mass | | Quote:
Originally Posted by CL400Peavey +1
You are looking at around 14 pounds for the four drivers. How are you going to build a properly braced cabinet for them with the remaining 11 pounds? | I'm not the builder so from a technically standpoint I cannot answer. Quote:
Originally Posted by CL400Peavey And why would anyone pay for that premium material for the design/performance aspect of a 410? | Why do people people pay $1125 for a non-neo 410?
Answer: Because they want them. Plain and simple.
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10-05-2012, 09:51 AM
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Me endorsed? | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada | | | Of course, but when I look at my lightweight Berg AE210's, I cant imagine how to cut the weight by more than 1/2. They already have NEO speakers, thin wood, etc.
I really don't think it is possible.
Right away 3-5lbs per speaker kills the dream.
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10-05-2012, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Baird6869
I really don't think it is possible.
Right away 3-5lbs per speaker kills the dream.
| Are you sure of that
Edit: I don't want to sound facetious in any way. All I'm saying is don't get stuck on what you think
some components way.
I come in peace
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10-05-2012, 10:16 AM
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Me endorsed? | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by basswave Are you sure of that
Edit: I don't want to sound facetious in any way. All I'm saying is don't get stuck on what you think
some components way.
I come in peace | So even 2 3lb speakers would leave 10lbs for wood, crossover, hardware, tolex, grille, etc.
Pretty sure it currently can't be done in a way that would sound great.
My boss asks me every month when I roll up forecast #'s "would you bet your career on this?"
In this case, I wouldn't!
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10-05-2012, 10:31 AM
|  | I love my BALLS! | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Warwick, NY | | | Using alternate material to wood (Fiberglass?) and alternate bracing, you might be able to accomplish this. It would be VERY expensive.
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10-05-2012, 11:19 AM
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Modulus, Revsound, & A-Designs Artist | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boston Mass | | | Alternate material
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Originally Posted by jlepre Using alternate material to wood (Fiberglass?) and alternate bracing, you might be able to accomplish this. It would be VERY expensive. | Hi John
Yep your correct.
Not sure on the expensive part (seriously).
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10-05-2012, 11:22 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Kitchener, ON | | | Even the composite crazy88 cabs weigh in at a little over 20lbs, iirc. |
10-05-2012, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mehve Even the composite crazy88 cabs weigh in at a little over 20lbs, iirc. | +1
Thats with 8" drivers of known weight too.
I am very curious to find out what type of material would allow this type of weight claim. Could be revolutionary if such a material exists that can be had at reasonable prices.
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10-05-2012, 11:43 AM
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Uncompensated endorsing user: fEARful | | Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Western PA | | Not intending to poke any fun at the OP, but...
This Criley-Core prototype weighed less than 2 lbs.   |
10-05-2012, 11:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | | Got a line on some affordable carbon fiber?...perhaps fused with helium?
How about some of that nano-tech stuff they are using to build the space elevator? | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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